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DreamCast, Anyone? - ThisGuyInTheSuit - 04-13-2013
Anyone Remember the Sega DreamCast? The system that died pretty quick? Well, The console was made when I was to young to know what videogames were, so To make up for it I'm getting one now. I was looking at lists of games, even top 10 worst lists, and Most of what I saw weren't that bad. Was just wondering if there were any games out there that I just HAD to play, or HAVE to avoid. Games I saw that seemed fun:
Fur Fighters
Power Stone (1/2)
Jet Grind Radio
Marvel Vs Capcom 2
Soulcaliber
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - 2D Brain - 04-13-2013
Get Bangai-O, Cannon Spike, and Resident Evil Code Veronica too.
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - Mass Distraction - 04-13-2013
Here are some must haves, other than those already mentioned:
- Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
- Shenmue
- Crazy Taxi
- Soul Calibur
- Capcom vs. SNK: Millenium Fight 2000
- Sonic Adventure 1/2
- Garou: Mark of the Wolves
- Blue Stinger
- Mars Matrix
- Fast Striker
- House of the Dead 2
- Jet Set Radio
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - Yawackhary - 04-13-2013
Dreamcast was a lovely but delicate console, too bad that I didn't get to experience Dreamarena (Sega's online service due to the cost of Internet back at those days) but I got to live it from the beginning to its cut short life.
As for games to recommend well I do it two ways, games that I have and games that I missed out on since there weren't available at the time or it was too late:
This is for the former:
- Shenmue (pretty much the big game on the system)
- Confidential Mission (little known spy light gun shooter from Sega and quite cheesy)
- Metropolis Street Racer [MSR] (you know Project Gotham Racing on the Xbox and the 360? This is the original game of that series and also includes some Sonic R esque music as well)
- Daytona USA 2001 (part of the Daytona series, has the original tracks, CCE and 2 new ones but the handling needs to be adjusted in the options for a better experience)
- Sega Rally 2 (it was a rushed 30fps port [strange how 30fps seems to be common now] but had extra content compared to the arcade version as in 2 courses and a 10 year championship mode)
- Virtua Tennis (the original of the series, it was an arcade port but it was better since there is a world tour mode, it is one of the few sports games that are accessable [just press the A button but you can press other buttons to do other moves])
- Crazy Taxi (did have this on the console but it kept crashing and saying no disc so ended up with the PSP one, anyway it is yet another good arcade port ready to make some krazy moves. Oh and if you want product placement and the original music, the Dreamcast version is the way to go providing that your console can read the disc)
- Crazy Taxi 2 [have the PSP version though] (see the 1st game but changed from San Francisco to a New York setting and allows multiple passengers but seems to be harder?)
- JET SET RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (these days, you might as well get the re-release since it has extra music [like me] but if you want to play it on an original console, you still can do)
- Rayman 2: The Great Escape (this is the only Rayman game that I actually liked but since there's not much 3D platformers of note on the system, it is one of the better ones and it is one the best versions? at least compared to the N64/DS/3DS ports)
- San Francisco Rush 2049 [have the Midway Arcade Treasures 3 version on the PS2 but the Dreamcast version has a much better frame rate] (arcade port with extra Stunt mode, fun but hard but there is a music looping bug when compared to the N64 version though even though it sounds more beefier)
- Soul Calibur (really good fighting game, sequel to Soul Blade)
- GTA 2 (only if you like the older style Grand Theft Auto games)
- Sega Bass Fishing (only for the novelty of it with the fishing rod)
While I could put Sonic Adventure, I think it has aged quite badly and it is a bit on the glitchy side however since it is a launch title and is one of the last Sonic games to have its original creator involved, it still has an atmosphere that got lost in Sonic Adventure 2 [that game itself started the decline of Sonic up to Sonic 06, Unleashed got a bit better and the newer games are actually pretty good]. It isn't one to fully recommend but it is part of the console's history and still at least playable.
This is for the latter:
- Headhunter (was one of the last games to be released on the console, it is a 3rd person game)
- Skies of Arcadia (I did play a demo of it and was okay, it's a sky pirate based RPG - I heard it was on the Gamecube though)
- Super Magnetic Neo (played a demo, it is a platformer that has + and - polarity system)
- Phantasy Star Online (I imagine that playing a 13 year old online game would be very hard today though especially if the servers are off but it was one of the top titles back then)
- Samba de Amigo (you need the maracas to play them properly and even then they were expensive at the time but you might be able to find one, it's a game were you have to play it on a console)
- Ferrari F355 Challenge (pretty much a racing simulator done by Yu Suzuki)
- Power Stone 1 & 2
- The Capcom fighting games (e.g. Jojo's Bizzare Adventure, Street Fighter III, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Capcom vs. SNK, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Tech Romancer, Project Justice) [if you want to play online however, it is better if you got the updated ports on XBLA/PSN if they exist]
- Resident Evil: Code Veronica (there are updated ports however)
- Shenmue II (you might have to import or play the Xbox version)
- Sega GT [Sega Gran Turismo?] (just to say that Sega copied a famous Sony game and the "inspiration" is to be seen)
- Toy Commander (interesting game where you fly around or drive but it is a toy based setting so it is around a home, played a demo of it)
- Propeller Arena (this was never released due to that a] the Dreamcast died and b] a certain world event happened in September 11, 2001, but it is an AM2 arcade competitive dog-fighting game and AM2 is a really good developer - a prototype is lurking around on the Internet)
I don't know about Dynamite Cop and Zombie Revenge but there are so few beat em ups on the system due to at the time beat em ups were "out of fashion" so it is worth a look.
To be honest, there aren't many bad games on the console since even the medicore games are decent to play. Even some licensed games like Donald Duck: Quack Attack and Toy Story 2 aren't bad. The only really bad ones (at least in the EU) are Spirit of Speed 1937 and Caesars Palace 2000. The rest is just a bit of common sense as in be weary of sports and wrestling games, and if a game is bad on another system/PC, it would be the same on the Dreamcast. Oh and also avoid Sega Smash Pack since the Genesis games have really bad sound emulation in them unless you want to get it for Sega Swirl and Virtua Cop 2.
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - jd345 - 04-13-2013
i just got Dynamite Deka 2 (JP version of Dynamite Cop) which is a squeal to Die Hard Arcade here, the big problem Sega DID ask Fox to use the Die Hard franchise again for DD2 in america and UK, but Fox turned it down as they were "late" to the party
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - 2D Brain - 04-13-2013
(04-13-2013, 06:08 PM)jd345 Wrote: i just got Dynamite Deka 2 (JP version of Dynamite Cop) which is a squeal to Die Hard Arcade here, the big problem Sega DID ask Fox to use the Die Hard franchise again for DD2 in america and UK, but Fox turned it down as they were "late" to the party
Yeah, I remember that.
Funny how Hollywood used to have such a dismissive, prima donna attitude towards video games and game developers in throughout most of the medium's history but now with the games industry being worth so much more money, and the critical success of ip-based games like Arkham City and Waking Dead they come calling now, playing Johnny Come Lately and being presumably more humble.
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - BumblebeeCody - 04-14-2013
I remember when they first came out. Back in those days they used to have a thing called a ...a demo kiosk where you could play games(imagine that). Gotta give credit to SEGA for having terrible timing though...even though it was more powerful than the PS2(like everything else was). I didn't bother with the Dreamcast because all the good games for it came out on other machines.
Dreamcast: We have Street Fighter 3: Third Strike
PS2/Xbox: Yeah man that anniversary edition has that and every other game on ONE DISK
Dreamcast: We have MvC2
PS2/Xbox: Same
Dreamcast: Yeah well Sonic Adventure 1, 2, Crazy Taxi etc
GameCube: Same....plus with SA1DX and SA2Battle D:
Ah man what meh console.
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - ThisGuyInTheSuit - 04-14-2013
(04-14-2013, 01:23 PM)BumblebeeCody Wrote: I remember when they first came out. Back in those days they used to have a thing called a ...a demo kiosk where you could play games(imagine that). Gotta give credit to SEGA for having terrible timing though...even though it was more powerful than the PS2(like everything else was). I didn't bother with the Dreamcast because all the good games for it came out on other machines.
Ah man what meh console.
It's not about whether the games came out on other systems, It's about playing them as they were originally made. The Dreamcast has always interested me, With the cool games and just the system in general.
Plus, It's never a bad thing to expand your gaming collection :P
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - BumblebeeCody - 04-14-2013
(04-14-2013, 01:40 PM)ThisGuyInTheSuit Wrote:(04-14-2013, 01:23 PM)BumblebeeCody Wrote: I remember when they first came out. Back in those days they used to have a thing called a ...a demo kiosk where you could play games(imagine that). Gotta give credit to SEGA for having terrible timing though...even though it was more powerful than the PS2(like everything else was). I didn't bother with the Dreamcast because all the good games for it came out on other machines.
Ah man what meh console.
It's not about whether the games came out on other systems, It's about playing them as they were originally made. The Dreamcast has always interested me, With the cool games and just the system in general.
Plus, It's never a bad thing to expand your gaming collection :P
That's the thing. Those games that came out on the other systems were the originals and sometimes with more. The Dreamcast became outdated during it's own generation :/
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - jd345 - 05-18-2013
(04-14-2013, 01:48 PM)BumblebeeCody Wrote:(04-14-2013, 01:40 PM)ThisGuyInTheSuit Wrote:(04-14-2013, 01:23 PM)BumblebeeCody Wrote: I remember when they first came out. Back in those days they used to have a thing called a ...a demo kiosk where you could play games(imagine that). Gotta give credit to SEGA for having terrible timing though...even though it was more powerful than the PS2(like everything else was). I didn't bother with the Dreamcast because all the good games for it came out on other machines.
Ah man what meh console.
It's not about whether the games came out on other systems, It's about playing them as they were originally made. The Dreamcast has always interested me, With the cool games and just the system in general.
Plus, It's never a bad thing to expand your gaming collection :P
That's the thing. Those games that came out on the other systems were the originals and sometimes with more. The Dreamcast became outdated during it's own generation :/
NOT quite, the Xbox version of Shenmue 2 was shit compared to the Dreamcast one, the dreamcast one had better visuals, better animation, FASTER LOAD TIMES!!! plus it's more clear and more emotional with the Japanese Voice Actors, SADX and SA2B were nice, and were far superior to their Dreamcast counterparts due to both were compatible to the Gamecube's progressive scan and with the digital out, but there are people that still love that the Dreamcast still has love even today, theres games that still are being made, even the best homebrew RPG is coming to it, Peir Solar!
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - Enderwoman - 05-20-2013
I haven't played anything on an original Dreamcast, just ports and remakes. I've played through Sonic Adventure which was great, Sonic Adventure 2 which was terrible, and currently playing Skies of Arcadia.
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - ThisGuyInTheSuit - 05-25-2013
I thought this thread died :O
But in any rate, I bought a Dreamcast, It just being so awesome, I couldn't stay away.
I bought Fur Fighters, Power Stone 1, Jet Grind Radio, RE: Code Veronica, Legacy of Kain, Crazy taxi, and Typing of the Dead, (couldn't stay away from the name :3). I'm still open to suggested games, Planing on getting Shenmue pretty soon.
(04-14-2013, 01:48 PM)BumblebeeCody Wrote:(04-14-2013, 01:40 PM)ThisGuyInTheSuit Wrote:(04-14-2013, 01:23 PM)BumblebeeCody Wrote: I remember when they first came out. Back in those days they used to have a thing called a ...a demo kiosk where you could play games(imagine that). Gotta give credit to SEGA for having terrible timing though...even though it was more powerful than the PS2(like everything else was). I didn't bother with the Dreamcast because all the good games for it came out on other machines.
Ah man what meh console.
It's not about whether the games came out on other systems, It's about playing them as they were originally made. The Dreamcast has always interested me, With the cool games and just the system in general.
Plus, It's never a bad thing to expand your gaming collection :P
That's the thing. Those games that came out on the other systems were the originals and sometimes with more. The Dreamcast became outdated during it's own generation :/
The games did release on other systems, as I now know, and I'm planning on checking out those ones to for comparison. And yeah... It did become outtdated during it's own gen....
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - retrolinkx - 05-26-2013
Ah Dreamcast, mine is still set up, and I still play it today to finish Skies of Arcadia, 40 hours in, and I've just got on the 2nd disc.
I could go on and on about the Dreamcast, I mean, it was the console that showed me I was a gamer, after I stayed up on a school night to play it, Quake 3, Sonic Adventure, and MSR were the games I played with all night.
I've only got a few games for it.
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Skies of Arcadia
Soul Calibur
Metropolis Street Racer
Quake 3: Arena
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2 (x2)
Crazy Taxi
Jet Set Radio
Virtua Fighter 3tb
Of course, these days I usually play Shenmue and Grandia via an emulator instead of the console itself.
It was a great console, and it usually tops the list of best console of all times, I mean come on, 720 games and counting (more than gamecube by the way), pretty much a 10/10 game library, internet access from day one, and much more, the only problem was the Controller, and the fact the PS2 was a DVD player.
Still, it'll always be a 10/10 console for me.
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - RyeoNox - 05-26-2013
I never own a Dreamcast before, but I saw this video the other day. Can't believe there are still indie developers making games for this console.
RE: DreamCast, Anyone? - SonicForLife97 - 05-27-2013
The system was one of the greatest systems of my childhood! The Sonic games on this were no comparison to the GameCube's remakes. Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, and Sonic Shuffle were fantastic games. The Dreamcast had an online capability to download DLC for the games too! Man, I miss those days.