(06-30-2013, 12:16 PM)Yawackhary Wrote: I don't think Nintendo has lost much in terms of their touch, it's just that the times have changed and Nintendo is struggling to keep up to the point where they have to make a Mario game or two and reusing assets or engines or even remaking games. They probably love to go back to the SNES/N64/Gamecube eras for creativity but are worried that it is not safe financially to do it.

Take Miyamoto for example, he is a wonderful game designer and many views that he made throughout the years are highly agreeable (e.g. delaying games can turn out good, games are like rock and roll as in that there are people who love it and people who hate it so much that they want it banned, games should be enjoyed) however I feel that he is burnt out in terms of making games. After all his last few games have been flops e.g. Wii Music and his advice has harmed Paper Mario: Sticker Star since when he designed games back in the 80s, they were even lucky to even have an ending but now a lot of games put story first or story and graphics first so to many it felt like a step backwards. Also I feel that Miyamoto does get jealous like he hated Donkey Kong Country for years just because it sold better than Yoshi's Island and probably it is me talking I think he is jealous of Sega handling F-Zero GX making excuses on why there are no more F-Zero games [all Nintendo have to do is look at other racing games to get a couple of ideas or even expand on their existing ideas e.g. the Track Editor could become a Track Creator to share tracks on Miiverse]. Well that and the series apparently isn't a high seller plus the fact apart from Nintendo themselves and Polyphony, there aren't any Japanese developers left making racing games so that's another reason.

The main problem is that Nintendo interfere too much whether it is 1987 or 2013, even though their games are usually very high quality. Would Paper Mario: Sticker Star is better if it wasn't interfered? Probably. However would Metroid Prime be better if it was just Retro Studios without any help from Nintendo? No it wouldn't. Plus the fact Nintendo has annoyed other publishers/developers in the past to the point of ignoring them due to various policies and they are stubborn. Capcom, Konami, Namco [even way back in the late 80s], more recently EA all who supported Nintendo heavily and later pulled out or mostly pulled out with a bit of lip service. With Square-Enix, it is mostly the handheld side that are still in, they only made a few console titles after Final Fantasy VI. SNK left for the Neo Geo but came back for the Wii (under SNK Playmore) just for compliations/re-releases, Taito and Tecmo didn't really support them much after the 16 bit era. Nintendo's other help have all gone e.g. Acclaim, Midway (now Warner Bros. who do support Nintendo a bit), THQ and the various other studios. How long will it be until Nintendo annoy Sega, Platinum Games and Ubisoft?

(06-29-2013, 01:12 PM)retrolinkx Wrote:

(06-29-2013, 10:43 AM)Artwark Wrote: Also if games like Dark moon were a bit disappointing, why are reviews and sales positive?

This is because the reviewers have to review the game as it is. They can't say it's a disappointment because they loved the first one. They go over the story, gameplay, mechanics, everything really.

Sales on the other hand are usually good because it's a game people haven't seen and want. Think about it, if a new F-Zero came out on the 3DS do you know how well that would sell?

(06-30-2013, 07:11 PM)Lazlo Falconi Wrote:

(06-29-2013, 01:12 PM)retrolinkx Wrote:

(06-29-2013, 10:43 AM)Artwark Wrote: Also if games like Dark moon were a bit disappointing, why are reviews and sales positive?

This is because the reviewers have to review the game as it is. They can't say it's a disappointment because they loved the first one. They go over the story, gameplay, mechanics, everything really.

Sales on the other hand are usually good because it's a game people haven't seen and want. Think about it, if a new F-Zero came out on the 3DS do you know how well that would sell?

Judging by the way Maximum Velocity and GP Legend sold? Nobody would buy it.

(06-30-2013, 07:16 PM)CosmykTheDolfyn Wrote:

(06-30-2013, 07:11 PM)Lazlo Falconi Wrote:

(06-29-2013, 01:12 PM)retrolinkx Wrote:

(06-29-2013, 10:43 AM)Artwark Wrote: Also if games like Dark moon were a bit disappointing, why are reviews and sales positive?

This is because the reviewers have to review the game as it is. They can't say it's a disappointment because they loved the first one. They go over the story, gameplay, mechanics, everything really.

Sales on the other hand are usually good because it's a game people haven't seen and want. Think about it, if a new F-Zero came out on the 3DS do you know how well that would sell?

Judging by the way Maximum Velocity and GP Legend sold? Nobody would buy it.

Considering that they had very little press attention, were hard to find, and were handheld racing games, of course they didn't sell near as well the console games.