(09-20-2013, 02:19 PM)MexicanAnime Wrote: OH BOY, ANOTHER REASON TO LINK A GIGGUK VIDEO~

(09-20-2013, 02:55 PM)RepentantSky Wrote: The uh, text there kind of falls off to the side so you can't read what it says.

(09-24-2013, 09:02 AM)Mass Distraction Wrote: I've never really gotten into the whole DB(Z)/Naruto/Bleach/OP anime thing. I only go for the manga. Less filler.

Only after I had fully read the manga did I watch some Dragon Ball Z on TV. Same goes with Naruto, though I did watch it from a friend's dvd.

(09-24-2013, 05:52 AM)BumblebeeCody Wrote: I watched all of Cowboy Bebop again last week and it has such better writing, animation and character design that it feels strange to have come from the same country as the others. You can see the huge shift in animes these days to what they used to be like.

(09-24-2013, 12:42 PM)MexicanAnime Wrote:

(09-24-2013, 05:52 AM)BumblebeeCody Wrote: I watched all of Cowboy Bebop again last week and it has such better writing, animation and character design that it feels strange to have come from the same country as the others. You can see the huge shift in animes these days to what they used to be like.

Shit has always been there. The shit that is coming out in the now and here is going to be more apparent than the shit that came out 10+ years ago as no one wants to remember them unless it's hilariously bad, just like any other medium.

As for Bebop, it's a really good show, but I never latched on to it personally as many other people did. Now for your comment on the actual animation specifically, then I would greatly disagree. Cowboy Bebop has good and consistent animation, but if we're talking about that aspect alone, many current anime out beat it in that regards.

As for "like other shows", I assume you mean Western style of shows. Even these days, you still get anime like that such as Baccano and Mitchiko and Hatchin, but as a whole, not really. They don't represent a majority of anime nowdays or 10 years ago. Truth is, western shows sell poorly in Japan and while they may have good stories, many companies don't try to take that risk. While Outlaw Star and Trigun are considered "legends" in the West, they sold rather poorly in Japan. Same with Baccano and Mitchiko.

Trigun was a special case as it was able to get a movie much later, but that was purely due to the fans in the West, which I consider really neat as honestly, sales outside of Japan when it comes to anime don't really contribute even a quarter of their sales.

Haven't watched Attack On Titan, but that's sort of the big anime that's out right now. All I know is that most people who list Bebop's as favorites are really enjoy the hell out of that show and are calling it great.

Spoiler

have the humans turn into some bullshit Naruto transformation titans themselves

(09-25-2013, 07:02 PM)BumblebeeCody Wrote:

(09-24-2013, 12:42 PM)MexicanAnime Wrote:

(09-24-2013, 05:52 AM)BumblebeeCody Wrote: I watched all of Cowboy Bebop again last week and it has such better writing, animation and character design that it feels strange to have come from the same country as the others. You can see the huge shift in animes these days to what they used to be like.

Shit has always been there. The shit that is coming out in the now and here is going to be more apparent than the shit that came out 10+ years ago as no one wants to remember them unless it's hilariously bad, just like any other medium.

As for Bebop, it's a really good show, but I never latched on to it personally as many other people did. Now for your comment on the actual animation specifically, then I would greatly disagree. Cowboy Bebop has good and consistent animation, but if we're talking about that aspect alone, many current anime out beat it in that regards.

As for "like other shows", I assume you mean Western style of shows. Even these days, you still get anime like that such as Baccano and Mitchiko and Hatchin, but as a whole, not really. They don't represent a majority of anime nowdays or 10 years ago. Truth is, western shows sell poorly in Japan and while they may have good stories, many companies don't try to take that risk. While Outlaw Star and Trigun are considered "legends" in the West, they sold rather poorly in Japan. Same with Baccano and Mitchiko.

Trigun was a special case as it was able to get a movie much later, but that was purely due to the fans in the West, which I consider really neat as honestly, sales outside of Japan when it comes to anime don't really contribute even a quarter of their sales.

Haven't watched Attack On Titan, but that's sort of the big anime that's out right now. All I know is that most people who list Bebop's as favorites are really enjoy the hell out of that show and are calling it great.

Fair points and I think you're right. A good note is that you mentioned Outlaw Star which is another Anime I enjoyed. It's odd. When you look at Anime in the "old days" it has a different art style to what we have now. Proportionate characters that aren't about teens and their "problems". I've been meaning to watch the rest of Baccano as I've heard positive reviews on it. Even the first episode of Baccano had me life "I really think this is going to suck balls". As soon as I saw the interesting characters I was keen to continue, only the first episode in and there's body parts being merged back together again. "Oh we're gonna do this now"?

I'm not going to rant or bitch for paragraphs, but I'm going to give a perfect example of why I don't like a lot of the current Anime.
Attack on Titan is a perfect example of how to fuck up an incredibly promising Anime. "No, don't make this Anime about an uphill struggle about humans cornered and having to make sacrifices every episodes, but instead

Spoiler

have the humans turn into some bullshit Naruto transformation titans themselves

completely voiding the character development and the struggles they endure to fight these overwhelming odds that barely ever considered a win in a confrontation." *breathe*.
Yes, the spoiler I saw confirmed why I can't stand Animes these days. It's mind blowing how generic/uninspired/unoriginal that Anime went only a few episodes in.
Watch the first 8 or so episodes and then you'll see what I mean.

"OMG you think you're so cool for not liking new Animoos. Watch Attack on Titan"
*Watches*
"This is why".

(09-25-2013, 07:29 PM)MexicanAnime Wrote: @Hex - Depends what manga you're looking at. Even with something like Sailor Moon, I'd consider that generic as it's most notable for being the land mark for magical girl anime, even if there are way more shows better than said work. Not bad my any means, just there that has had an impact on the anime industry.

(09-25-2013, 07:29 PM)MexicanAnime Wrote: I'll probably watch Attack On Titan at some point. I heard about the spoiler, which honestly does sound really dumb, but I don't know the context of it, so I can't judge it. Anime has been able to take bizarre twists and stories while still having a theme that can apply to many people, so I'm use to some stuff like that as long as I know the context.

@Hex - Depends what manga you're looking at. Even with something like Sailor Moon, I'd consider that generic as it's most notable for being the land mark for magical girl anime, even if there are way more shows better than said work. Not bad my any means, just there that has had an impact on the anime industry.

(09-25-2013, 07:48 PM)BumblebeeCody Wrote: Does anyone have a good anime film to watch?

(09-25-2013, 07:53 PM)MexicanAnime Wrote: As for good anime films, my favorite anime film of all time is Millenium Actress, directed by the legendary Satoshi Kon. Everyone I know who has seen it has loved it and it avoids the usual anime stereotypes, so I think you would enjoy it.

@Hex - Curious, have you ever thought about watching Madoka Magica? I think you would enjoy it. It also helps that it's really short.