Sundowner Wrote:I disagree that you have "no right" to upload and use footage in a review.

This video sums everything up pretty nicely from someone who actually does film/TV reviews rather than game stuff but the general concepts still apply. Commentary and criticism are valid "excuses" to be using video content of intellectual property, authorized or otherwise. It falls in to Fair Use and probably free speech at some point. Now when it comes to LPs and wholesale uploads of game footage, I agree and think it's fair that they have every right to de-monetize or claim that content (perhaps there are some very severely strict cases where it isn't fair) but when you're using heavily edited footage and clips to give context and meaning to a criticism, that's absolutely fair and requires no permission.

Reviews aren't solicited work (they CAN be, but aren't REQUIRED to be) and it's not in the same grey area as LPs.

Edit: Oh and while this doesn't necessarily apply directly to LPs, it's certainly a sadness to see a guy like Mark Bussler have to reel it in and move elsewhere. I was generally okay with this whole thing (in the sense that I knew what I had clear rights to and what I didn't) but now that I see CGR jumping ship, I'm a little worried. Considering his entire catalogue is critical works and yet even he has to consider other avenues. I don't want any of my critical works (:spergin:) to be tagged, removed or de-monitized. That's where I draw the line.

Zorak Wrote:Accepting that kind of thing comes with the risk of doing a Let's Play of any modern platform game. After all, other people control the license to the games being Let's Play and it's in a weird legal area as a result.

(12-13-2013, 04:57 PM)RepentantSky Wrote: Apparently he isn't fighting the future so much since he chose to run away with his tail between his legs as soon as uploading to youtube became difficult. I mean come on, this is the damn internet, dude's like that ought to be fighting to get things back they way they were, not stepping aside and allowing it like a little bitch would. Him leaving only means he has no backbone when it really counts. People need to stop acting like he's some sort of martyr and get him to get back in the game to put an end to this BS.

(12-13-2013, 04:05 PM)retrolinkx Wrote: You can hear the sadness in his voice ;_;

(12-13-2013, 07:06 PM)RepentantSky Wrote: If the internet can put an end to things like SOPA by showing discontent with it, so can we do the same to youtube with the same means. Boycotting will help but if we don't make a point with people who google will eventually have no hope in but to listen to like CGR, we are going to be stuck with the changes they want to make without even being able to put up a fight. This guy isn't fighting by just leaving youtube to it's own devices like that.

(12-20-2013, 11:06 AM)Mass Distraction Wrote: So, google has issued a response to the matter

Basically, it's a really long winded way of sayong "fuck you, we can do whatever we want".

In case someone feels the need to defend google or something otherwise stupid, here's a recent story: [link]

They are literally preventing content owners, the makers of a game themselves, to monetize their videos. If you didn't click the link, they have went as far as sending google all the necessary forms and what have you, yet they still refuse to let them monetize their own work. THIS is how flawed the system is and this is how FUCKED, evil and rotten to the core google is.

Oh, and this is to say that it literally means fuck all of you try to take action against google in any way, shape or form. People need to abandon this shit site and move on.