06-21-2013, 07:32 AM
Since I will not be in the 8th generation of consoles (only getting a Wii U to play some platformers before stopping new gaming from 2014) and I believe the console wars to be silly since I try to get more than one in a generation if I can afford it [e.g. have both a Mega Drive and a SNES, a PS1 and a N64, all of the 6th generation, a PS3 and a Wii] so instead I give a more neutral view on what they can do to improve themselves:
The Wii U does have some potential but it has to do an awful lot before it even becomes even a chance of success. If Nintendo can bring out games and I mean more than just their main series on toast plus having more 3rd party support than just Ubisoft, Activision and Warner Bros [also Platinum Games and Sega if they count] then the Wii U will be okay. For the Japanese market, a good 3rd party RPG is what they need to sell the thing, maybe a Persona game? Also they need more advertising, the last advert I saw was when the console came out and I bet people aren't even aware of the console. Technically, it is the weakest of the 3 but has better power consumption so for electric bills it is smaller and the Gamepad is handy if people want to watch TV and you still want to play your game.
I still think the Wii U is going to be distant 3rd place Gamecube levels in the UK all over again (the US is a different story due to more Nintendo fans there). To put things into perspective, the Gamecube was getting hard to find games after 2 years it came out since Game refused to sell games for it and by 2005 it was more or less dead, even the Xbox that was dying still had games with Forza being the last big game before MS switched to 360. I didn't see the Gamecube version of Twilight Princess at all or indeed any of the last Gamecube games and the Gamecube had better 3rd party support than the Wii U. Currently for the Wii U, only Game, HMV, Grainger Games, Morrisons Supermarket [console only], Argos and your usual online stores [Amazon, ShopTo, Zavvi] are selling it with a very limited game stock. Other places that sell games and consoles aren't selling it, I haven't seen it in my local Tesco, ASDA or Sainsburys supermarkets at all [and they are the big ones]. ASDA and Tesco even sells consoles and games for the Vita, the Vita of all consoles that itself is just as unpopular as the Wii U. Whether Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country Wii U, Pikmin 3, Mario & Sonic Sochi Winter Olympics, Sonic Lost World and Wind Waker HD changes things will be another thing since they are all coming out later this year.
If the Wii U flops, I can see Nintendo sticking to the handheld market where they are the best at doing.
PS4 is going to be really successful in Europe like all of the Sony consoles before it [except Vita and maybe PSP] as well as Japan but neck and neck in America, will get the indie and the smaller Japanese developers unlike the Xbone and is the most powerful console of the three. However with Sony, they can change their minds very quickily and in terms of the UK fanbase very fickle [I often see people saying that they are going to the 360 when SCEE do something wrong]. The only thing Sony needs to sort out is their digital download releases on PSN to make it more global and less unusual European delays, apart from that yeah I can see the PS4 doing well unless Sony do something stupid.
As for the Xbone, the COD/FIFA/Madden crowd, American sports fans as well as the diehard Xbox fans will still buy it but the trust has for many people have more or less gone so Microsoft have to do a lot of things to get the trust back however the way they have been acting lately... Who is it to say that MS might put their awful policies back in when it starts being successful via a firmware update? Even then with the focus on Kinect would also put people off (even though the Kinect can be useful on non-gaming stuff and there is potiential, just not for someone who plays games or indeed people in general). Not just because of the spying thing but also the space since you need to be at least 2 metres away from the console. What about little flats and apartments? Actually if it doesn't work properly in small flats [e.g. my bedroom is just about 2 metres], it might be a good thing if the snooping camera doesn't work unless it is a webcam...
For MS though, they do have the 3rd party support than the Wii U lacks though. All they have to do now is have the Kinect optional, lower the price of the console and stick towards having a consumer view instead of going back to the planned greedy ways.
Then again the PC might be even more popular than the 3 consoles with that VR headset support and many people are buying games from Steam and GOG.
I wonder whether that or the Game Stick will be the worst out of the two.
The Wii U does have some potential but it has to do an awful lot before it even becomes even a chance of success. If Nintendo can bring out games and I mean more than just their main series on toast plus having more 3rd party support than just Ubisoft, Activision and Warner Bros [also Platinum Games and Sega if they count] then the Wii U will be okay. For the Japanese market, a good 3rd party RPG is what they need to sell the thing, maybe a Persona game? Also they need more advertising, the last advert I saw was when the console came out and I bet people aren't even aware of the console. Technically, it is the weakest of the 3 but has better power consumption so for electric bills it is smaller and the Gamepad is handy if people want to watch TV and you still want to play your game.
I still think the Wii U is going to be distant 3rd place Gamecube levels in the UK all over again (the US is a different story due to more Nintendo fans there). To put things into perspective, the Gamecube was getting hard to find games after 2 years it came out since Game refused to sell games for it and by 2005 it was more or less dead, even the Xbox that was dying still had games with Forza being the last big game before MS switched to 360. I didn't see the Gamecube version of Twilight Princess at all or indeed any of the last Gamecube games and the Gamecube had better 3rd party support than the Wii U. Currently for the Wii U, only Game, HMV, Grainger Games, Morrisons Supermarket [console only], Argos and your usual online stores [Amazon, ShopTo, Zavvi] are selling it with a very limited game stock. Other places that sell games and consoles aren't selling it, I haven't seen it in my local Tesco, ASDA or Sainsburys supermarkets at all [and they are the big ones]. ASDA and Tesco even sells consoles and games for the Vita, the Vita of all consoles that itself is just as unpopular as the Wii U. Whether Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country Wii U, Pikmin 3, Mario & Sonic Sochi Winter Olympics, Sonic Lost World and Wind Waker HD changes things will be another thing since they are all coming out later this year.
If the Wii U flops, I can see Nintendo sticking to the handheld market where they are the best at doing.
PS4 is going to be really successful in Europe like all of the Sony consoles before it [except Vita and maybe PSP] as well as Japan but neck and neck in America, will get the indie and the smaller Japanese developers unlike the Xbone and is the most powerful console of the three. However with Sony, they can change their minds very quickily and in terms of the UK fanbase very fickle [I often see people saying that they are going to the 360 when SCEE do something wrong]. The only thing Sony needs to sort out is their digital download releases on PSN to make it more global and less unusual European delays, apart from that yeah I can see the PS4 doing well unless Sony do something stupid.
As for the Xbone, the COD/FIFA/Madden crowd, American sports fans as well as the diehard Xbox fans will still buy it but the trust has for many people have more or less gone so Microsoft have to do a lot of things to get the trust back however the way they have been acting lately... Who is it to say that MS might put their awful policies back in when it starts being successful via a firmware update? Even then with the focus on Kinect would also put people off (even though the Kinect can be useful on non-gaming stuff and there is potiential, just not for someone who plays games or indeed people in general). Not just because of the spying thing but also the space since you need to be at least 2 metres away from the console. What about little flats and apartments? Actually if it doesn't work properly in small flats [e.g. my bedroom is just about 2 metres], it might be a good thing if the snooping camera doesn't work unless it is a webcam...
For MS though, they do have the 3rd party support than the Wii U lacks though. All they have to do now is have the Kinect optional, lower the price of the console and stick towards having a consumer view instead of going back to the planned greedy ways.
Then again the PC might be even more popular than the 3 consoles with that VR headset support and many people are buying games from Steam and GOG.
(06-21-2013, 05:55 AM)Lightmatt Wrote: Where's my OUYA option? I wanna vote on an even worse console than all three of these.
I wonder whether that or the Game Stick will be the worst out of the two.