10-01-2015, 05:33 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2015, 05:39 AM by BumblebeeCody.)
So I did actually catch on this now and there are a few things that are worth bringing up.
Firstly Polygon have no Agenda that they're pushing. They are not for or against this recent event, only that they are merely reporting it. I've read it 3 times over but there isn't any statement of Polygon saying that they support and/or will help Zoe and Anita in their efforts. It's stating the current events. I could quote any random paragraph and you'll see there is nothing in any one of them that states Polygons stance on the matter
However, even if it did, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. This is about stopping cyber bullying, it might be cyber bullying against females online specifically, but I can't see why even if Polygon did support them, that it would be bad. But again, they aren't.
Secondly, as usual, this entire event has been blown far out of proportion and taken completely out of context. I like most of ReviewTechUSAs stuff...most. Where Rich got the:
As for AlphaOmegaSin. C'mon, the thumbnail states
Lastly I think the question then is what's the point of this? If it's not obvious, these speeches (which the UN WEB has done many of) is to discuss women issues that are faced online. It's strictly about women's issues. It's not about how the white male is privileged and they are the reason the world sucks, it's about how to stop cyber bullying for women and how we can make it a better place. Enforcing rules like "don't be a racist, sexist arsehole" isn't called censorship and being banned for it is your fault. There are plenty of seminars, lectures and speeches you can find online about what it's like to be black, Chinese, gay, transgender etc in certain environments. None of them, or the ones I've watched, actually state who specifically is the problem. It's just people being dickheads online. In this case, Zoe and Anita who have faced many accounts of cyber bullying as a women, use their experiences to educate others and present possible ideas. I get the idea that people who read these articles and react like AlphaOmegaSin think "well if they didn't mean me, then they must be talking about me being the hateful person online".
If anyone did watch the video that was posted they would know what was said. If not, which I think is many, I time stamped some of the key points.
http://webtv.un.org/watch/launch-of-the-...#full-text
1:26 Zoe Quinn talks about the importance of being able to talk online. It can be used for good and/or bad. It's helpful for people with issues that don't want to talk to people physically.
Zoe Quinns Goal here is to try and push the idea that people who are differently(an easy target) have a safe environment for those people.
1:33 Anita discusses the importance of having these safe environments so online users won't fear intimidation.
Also I have to state, GamerGate is fucking dumb. I'm not a feminist. I actually don't agree with a lot of what Anita says. I'm not on anyone's side.
Firstly Polygon have no Agenda that they're pushing. They are not for or against this recent event, only that they are merely reporting it. I've read it 3 times over but there isn't any statement of Polygon saying that they support and/or will help Zoe and Anita in their efforts. It's stating the current events. I could quote any random paragraph and you'll see there is nothing in any one of them that states Polygons stance on the matter
However, even if it did, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. This is about stopping cyber bullying, it might be cyber bullying against females online specifically, but I can't see why even if Polygon did support them, that it would be bad. But again, they aren't.
Secondly, as usual, this entire event has been blown far out of proportion and taken completely out of context. I like most of ReviewTechUSAs stuff...most. Where Rich got the:
Quote:Anita And Zoe Turn "Everyone's Problem" Into A "Woman's Problem"When that isn't the case. The point of this event is discuss online interaction but this speech, just so happens to be based on gender. But this is Rich completely jumping the gun and missing the point completely. Nothing about this states that online harassment is strictly about women.
As for AlphaOmegaSin. C'mon, the thumbnail states
Quote:Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn got the UN to promote Internet Censorship.The guy is a fully erect cock. he's like YouTube comments rolled into one (My cyber bullying).
Lastly I think the question then is what's the point of this? If it's not obvious, these speeches (which the UN WEB has done many of) is to discuss women issues that are faced online. It's strictly about women's issues. It's not about how the white male is privileged and they are the reason the world sucks, it's about how to stop cyber bullying for women and how we can make it a better place. Enforcing rules like "don't be a racist, sexist arsehole" isn't called censorship and being banned for it is your fault. There are plenty of seminars, lectures and speeches you can find online about what it's like to be black, Chinese, gay, transgender etc in certain environments. None of them, or the ones I've watched, actually state who specifically is the problem. It's just people being dickheads online. In this case, Zoe and Anita who have faced many accounts of cyber bullying as a women, use their experiences to educate others and present possible ideas. I get the idea that people who read these articles and react like AlphaOmegaSin think "well if they didn't mean me, then they must be talking about me being the hateful person online".
If anyone did watch the video that was posted they would know what was said. If not, which I think is many, I time stamped some of the key points.
http://webtv.un.org/watch/launch-of-the-...#full-text
1:26 Zoe Quinn talks about the importance of being able to talk online. It can be used for good and/or bad. It's helpful for people with issues that don't want to talk to people physically.
Zoe Quinns Goal here is to try and push the idea that people who are differently(an easy target) have a safe environment for those people.
1:33 Anita discusses the importance of having these safe environments so online users won't fear intimidation.
Also I have to state, GamerGate is fucking dumb. I'm not a feminist. I actually don't agree with a lot of what Anita says. I'm not on anyone's side.