(08-05-2018, 03:48 PM)Boyobmas Wrote: For those wondering, the Smash direct is on Wednesday (August 8th) starting 7am PT.
Official Twitter Post

(08-05-2018, 04:20 PM)RepentantSky Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 03:48 PM)Boyobmas Wrote: For those wondering, the Smash direct is on Wednesday (August 8th) starting 7am PT.
Official Twitter Post

This direct can directly fuck off. A good percentage of people said they were mad at Nintendo over their stubbornness to focus on almost nothing outside of Smash at E3, and there are dozens of other games they desperately need to talk about, and instead they focus on the game that several people are already sold on or are sick of seeing. I want to see them talk about Bayo 3, Metroid 4, Persona Q2, an Animal Crossing game for Switch, really pretty much anything besides Smash. At this point, it's going to be extremely difficult to talk about anything new for the game since they spent most of their E3 direct with it, and most of Nintendo Treehouse Live with it. Nintendo needs to shift their focus away from Smash to any of their other projects, because the people who are going to buy this game are already there, and it's gonna be hard to get new people into the game, but easy to deter people like me from it because I'm sick of it being everywhere around Nintendo. Iwata-san always made it a point to talk about a lot of different things to keep consumer interest up, but the current Nintendo has completely abandoned that for no reason.

(08-05-2018, 05:36 PM)Boyobmas Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 04:20 PM)RepentantSky Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 03:48 PM)Boyobmas Wrote: For those wondering, the Smash direct is on Wednesday (August 8th) starting 7am PT.
Official Twitter Post

This direct can directly fuck off. A good percentage of people said they were mad at Nintendo over their stubbornness to focus on almost nothing outside of Smash at E3, and there are dozens of other games they desperately need to talk about, and instead they focus on the game that several people are already sold on or are sick of seeing. I want to see them talk about Bayo 3, Metroid 4, Persona Q2, an Animal Crossing game for Switch, really pretty much anything besides Smash. At this point, it's going to be extremely difficult to talk about anything new for the game since they spent most of their E3 direct with it, and most of Nintendo Treehouse Live with it. Nintendo needs to shift their focus away from Smash to any of their other projects, because the people who are going to buy this game are already there, and it's gonna be hard to get new people into the game, but easy to deter people like me from it because I'm sick of it being everywhere around Nintendo. Iwata-san always made it a point to talk about a lot of different things to keep consumer interest up, but the current Nintendo has completely abandoned that for no reason.

Ultimate is Nintendo's biggest game this holiday. (Other than Pokémon Let's GO!, though I don't see there being that much left to talk about concerning it.) And a Smash-focused direct would have happened eventually, so at least be glad there getting it out of the way first.
And even if they did do a regular direct right now, they wouldn't really talk about much. We already know there are some games we don't know about coming this Fall, but I doubt they would be very big titles. (Though they'd likely take a good while explaining them.) Plus, they would likely fully explain the online service, and all the smaller indie stuff the like to focus on. What I'm saying is it wouldn't be nearly as exciting as people would hope. (Especially if they go in expecting games that have no release window/haven't even been announced.)
And for Ultimate "not having much more to talk about". We no nothing about this game in terms of modes alone. Not to mention new characters, new/returning stages, how online will work, trophies, extras, etc. There's a ton to be expanded on, so it's not a purposeless direct.

(08-05-2018, 08:56 PM)RepentantSky Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 05:36 PM)Boyobmas Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 04:20 PM)RepentantSky Wrote: This direct can directly fuck off. A good percentage of people said they were mad at Nintendo over their stubbornness to focus on almost nothing outside of Smash at E3, and there are dozens of other games they desperately need to talk about, and instead they focus on the game that several people are already sold on or are sick of seeing. I want to see them talk about Bayo 3, Metroid 4, Persona Q2, an Animal Crossing game for Switch, really pretty much anything besides Smash. At this point, it's going to be extremely difficult to talk about anything new for the game since they spent most of their E3 direct with it, and most of Nintendo Treehouse Live with it. Nintendo needs to shift their focus away from Smash to any of their other projects, because the people who are going to buy this game are already there, and it's gonna be hard to get new people into the game, but easy to deter people like me from it because I'm sick of it being everywhere around Nintendo. Iwata-san always made it a point to talk about a lot of different things to keep consumer interest up, but the current Nintendo has completely abandoned that for no reason.

Ultimate is Nintendo's biggest game this holiday. (Other than Pokémon Let's GO!, though I don't see there being that much left to talk about concerning it.) And a Smash-focused direct would have happened eventually, so at least be glad there getting it out of the way first.
And even if they did do a regular direct right now, they wouldn't really talk about much. We already know there are some games we don't know about coming this Fall, but I doubt they would be very big titles. (Though they'd likely take a good while explaining them.) Plus, they would likely fully explain the online service, and all the smaller indie stuff the like to focus on. What I'm saying is it wouldn't be nearly as exciting as people would hope. (Especially if they go in expecting games that have no release window/haven't even been announced.)
And for Ultimate "not having much more to talk about". We no nothing about this game in terms of modes alone. Not to mention new characters, new/returning stages, how online will work, trophies, extras, etc. There's a ton to be expanded on, so it's not a purposeless direct.

I disagree with pretty much all of this. I'm not asking for new IP's or sequel's directly (though I know a lot of people who like Animal Crossing so for their sake it would be nice to see) but I've seen so much of Smash Bros already, that I would prefer anything that's left is left to be be found out by players so there are at least some surprises. What I am asking for, more than anything else, is updates to games that were already announced like Luigi's Mansion, Yo-kai Watch Blasters and other titles I already mentioned. Also, Nintendo giving some insight as to what's happening at the early going for next year would be nice since so little is left for this year that more than a few fans are going to care about outside of Smash. As for new characters, there won't be many as was made clear by Sakurai-san himself so I wouldn't be shocked to see no new characters announced this Wednesday. Whatever, the case may be with Smash, I'm done with it. I hate that Nintendo has taken this route every year since Iwata-san died, of focusing on one title so much that everything else feels insignificant, and this is the worst case of it so far. The hype for a game company can only go so long when they aren't marketing to all kinds of consumers they have the potential to appeal to, and this is a prime example of them not doing that. If anything, this direct, which was inevitable, should have happened in September, where Nintendo is going to lose out on sales to the major games that aren't going to be on their systems. It would have given people reason to talk about them during that month, and if they had already updated previously announced titles and kept other fans happy, more people would be receptive to a Smash focused direct. Doing things this way, people who felt Nintendo ignored what they cared about most, only end more frustrated with them. You're right about one thing though, Nintendo wouldn't likely have much to talk about that would interest a large number of people. They don't do that anymore, because they have no idea how to run the company without Iwata's guidance, that they threw out quicker than we all came to realize how serious his cancer was.

(08-06-2018, 12:14 AM)Boyobmas Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 08:56 PM)RepentantSky Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 05:36 PM)Boyobmas Wrote: Ultimate is Nintendo's biggest game this holiday. (Other than Pokémon Let's GO!, though I don't see there being that much left to talk about concerning it.) And a Smash-focused direct would have happened eventually, so at least be glad there getting it out of the way first.
And even if they did do a regular direct right now, they wouldn't really talk about much. We already know there are some games we don't know about coming this Fall, but I doubt they would be very big titles. (Though they'd likely take a good while explaining them.) Plus, they would likely fully explain the online service, and all the smaller indie stuff the like to focus on. What I'm saying is it wouldn't be nearly as exciting as people would hope. (Especially if they go in expecting games that have no release window/haven't even been announced.)
And for Ultimate "not having much more to talk about". We no nothing about this game in terms of modes alone. Not to mention new characters, new/returning stages, how online will work, trophies, extras, etc. There's a ton to be expanded on, so it's not a purposeless direct.

I disagree with pretty much all of this. I'm not asking for new IP's or sequel's directly (though I know a lot of people who like Animal Crossing so for their sake it would be nice to see) but I've seen so much of Smash Bros already, that I would prefer anything that's left is left to be be found out by players so there are at least some surprises. What I am asking for, more than anything else, is updates to games that were already announced like Luigi's Mansion, Yo-kai Watch Blasters and other titles I already mentioned. Also, Nintendo giving some insight as to what's happening at the early going for next year would be nice since so little is left for this year that more than a few fans are going to care about outside of Smash. As for new characters, there won't be many as was made clear by Sakurai-san himself so I wouldn't be shocked to see no new characters announced this Wednesday. Whatever, the case may be with Smash, I'm done with it. I hate that Nintendo has taken this route every year since Iwata-san died, of focusing on one title so much that everything else feels insignificant, and this is the worst case of it so far. The hype for a game company can only go so long when they aren't marketing to all kinds of consumers they have the potential to appeal to, and this is a prime example of them not doing that. If anything, this direct, which was inevitable, should have happened in September, where Nintendo is going to lose out on sales to the major games that aren't going to be on their systems. It would have given people reason to talk about them during that month, and if they had already updated previously announced titles and kept other fans happy, more people would be receptive to a Smash focused direct. Doing things this way, people who felt Nintendo ignored what they cared about most, only end more frustrated with them. You're right about one thing though, Nintendo wouldn't likely have much to talk about that would interest a large number of people. They don't do that anymore, because they have no idea how to run the company without Iwata's guidance, that they threw out quicker than we all came to realize how serious his cancer was.

This isn't the only opportunity Nintendo has to announce/showcase other games before 2019. Between the Online service, Super Mario Party and those unannounced Fall games, it's almost guaranteed we'll get a regular direct sometime before the holidays. (Early/mid-September, would be my guess.) They're not "ignoring" anyone, even though it would be better if they communicated this. Also, saying that Nintendo is doomed because they're not showing anything right now is a bit melodramatic, no? Sure, if they keep sparse on info between now and December it'll suck for a bit and it might somewhat effect sales, but long term it isn't going to matter much. Nintendo has pretty sparse periods of releases before (including during Iwata's presidency.), but this is no where near as bad as it could get during the WiiU's lifespan. (Not to mention the Switch is far more successful than the WiiU was, and is quickly gaining 3rd party support which helps with sparse 1st party releases.) So if Nintendo doesn't feel like sharing anything else right now, whatever. It's fine. Not ideal, but it's also not the end of the world.

(08-06-2018, 03:05 AM)Boyobmas Wrote: Holy shit, I'm a fucking idiot.
Looking back at your posts I defenitley misunderstood alot of what you were saying,  It also doesn't help that my responses came off alot more confrontational than I intended. You have every right to be frustrated and I had no place coming down on you for your opinions. I'm really sorry for making a big stupid thing out of this.

Spoiler

For those who don't care, here's what happened and what it could mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-xngIdu1O4&feature=youtu.be&a

Spoiler

* Simon Belmont Confirmed. (Along with Dracula's Castle Stage with Dracula stage boss and 30+ music tracks.)

* Alucard Assist Trophy

* Richter Belmont revealed as an Echo Fighter for Simon.

* Chrom and Dark Samus revealed as Echo Fighters.

* You can choose to display all fighters on select screen or stack echo fighters on top of originals.

* Main focus with stages is returning ones.

* Final Destination design revealed.

* Traveling New Donk City stage revealed.

* Fountain of Dreams is back, baybee!! (Along with various other stages.)

* 103 Stages in total. (Exactly 100 w/o Battlefield, Final Destination, etc.)

* All stages playable in 8-Player Smash

* Stage hazard toggle confirmed.

* Stage order matches introduction to series.

* Stage Morph toggle allows two stages to constantly shift between each other.

* Stage music is not limited to a select amount but rather any music track from a stages' series can be used.

* About 900 pieces of music. (28+ hours)

* Create your own music playlist.

* You can play music with screen off.

* Music updates every week.

* Create your own default mode set. 

* Stamina battle is now a standard mode.

* Stage selection before fighter selection.

* Sudden Death zooms in camera and shrinks blasts zone.

* Chargeable final smashes will be a toggle.

* New Battle modes.

* Squad Strike: two teams of 3-5 consecutive fighters battle.

* Tournament mode with up to 32 players.

* Smashdown: eliminates fighters chosen from being selectable as you progress.

* Training mode has an original stage.

* Classic Mode returns to original format, opponent selections are now tailored to each fighter rather than being randomized.

* New Items: Banana Gun, Deaths Scythe, Staff, Rage Blaster, and more.

* New Pokémon include Alolan Exeguttor, Abra, Solgaleo, Lunala, Mimikyu, Pyukmuku, Vulpix, Alolan Vulpix, Marshadow, Ditto (with scrapped Melee functionality.)

* New Assist Trophies: Zero, Knuckles, Klaptrap, Kapp'n, Chef Kawasaki, Gray Fox (Returning), Nikki, Shovel Knight, Moon (Majora's Mask) and Rathalos (Monster Hunter)

* Rathalos mentioned as a boss for an unknown stage/mode.

* Main menu overhauled.

* Mysterious new mode teased but cannot be discussed yet.

* King K. Rool Confirmed!!

Spoiler

• Battlfield
  
• Big Battlefield
  
• Final Destination
  Smash 64:
  
• Peach's Castle
  
• Kongo Jungle
  
• Hyrule Castle
  
• Yoshi's Island
  
• Dream Land
  
• Saffron City
  
• Mushroom Kingdom
  Melee:
  
• Princess Peach's Castle
  
• Rainbow Cruise
  
• Kongo Falls
  
• Jungle Japes
  
• Great Bay
  
• Temple
  
• Brinstar
  
• Yoshi's Island
  
• Yoshi's Story
  
• Fountain of Dreams
  
• Green Greens
  
• Corneria
  
• Venom
  
• Pokémon Stadium
  
• Onett
  
• Mushroom Kingdom II
  
• Brinstar Depths
  
• Big Blue
  
• Fourside
  Brawl:
  
• Delfino Isle.
  
• Mushroomy Kingdom
  
• Mario Circuit
  
• Warioware Inc.
  
• Bridge of Eldin
  
• Nofair
  
• Frigate Orpheon
  
• Yoshi's Island
  
• Halberd
  
• Lylat Cruise
  
• Pokémon Stadium 2
  
• Port Town Areo Drive
  
• Castle Siege
  
• Distant Planet
  
• Smashville
  
• New Pork City
  
• Summit
  
• Skyworld
  
• Shadow Moses Isle.
  
• Luigi's Mansion
  
• Pirate Ship
  
• Spear Pillar
  
• 75M
  
• Mario Bros.
  
• Electroplankton
  
• Green Hill Zone
  WiiU/3DS:
  
• 3D Land
  
• Golden Plains
  
• Paper Mario
  
• Gerudo Valley
  
• Spirit Train
  
• Dream Land
  
• Unova Pokémon League
  
• Prisim Tower
  
• Mute City
  
• Magicant
  
• Arena Ferox
  
• Reset Bomb Forest
  
• Tortimer Island
  
• Balloon Fight
  
• Nintendogs
  
• Find Mii
  
• Tamodachi Life
  
• Pictochat 2
  
• Mushroom Kingdom U
  
• Mario Galaxy
  
• Mario Circuit
  
• Skyloft
  
• Great Cave Offensive
  
• Kalos Pokémon League
  
• Coliseum
  
• Flat Zone X
  
• Palutena's Temple
  
• Gamer
  
• Garden of Hope
  
• Town and City
  
• Wii Fit
  
• Boxing Ring
  
• Gaur Plains
  
• Duck Hunt
  
• Wrecking Crew
  
• Pilot Wings
  
• Wuhu Island
  
• Lost World
  
• Wily's Castle
  
• Pac-Land
  
• Super Mario Maker
  
• Suzaku Castle
  
• Midgar
  
• Umbra Clock Tower
  New Stages:
  
• New Donk City Hall
  
• Great Plateau Tower
  
• Moray Towers
  
• Dracula's Castle