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RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - ZpaceJ0ck0 - 02-18-2017
(02-16-2017, 12:26 PM)Hexadecimal Wrote: My friend who teaches in Japan is having a hard time right now.
She found out from her boss one school she teaches at has filed multiple complaints about her. You're never going to guess why... It's for not being "feminine" enough. I am not joking. I didn't realize Japan was THAT bad when it comes to gender roles.
Two things she mentioned that had me in shock was that they don't like that she doesn't wear perfume and they expect her to wear skirts everyday. Once her contract is up I think she's probably going to back to the States and staying here.
1. Japanese hate perfume and cologne. It is often banned in schools and work places and odourless anti-perspirents are usually used.
If you wear strong perfume you may get looks or comments from people, especially if you use public transport and are in close quarters. In any country if you were squeezed onto a train next to a woman smelling like floral toilet freshener I think that would be quite unpleasant if you didn't like the smell.
2. I don't really see what's wrong with being told to wear a skirt everyday at your workplace. To me it simply means that she was told that she must follow certain rules regarding clothing just like in any work place of any country.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - Hexadecimal - 02-18-2017
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1. I'm going to believe my friend who actually LIVES in Japan and not some random rude guy on a forum who continuously makes me dislike him even more.
2. My friend has been having a really hard time there because she is very overworked and they're mad at her because she's been getting sick. You can't know what she's going through, so stop being an asshole.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - ZpaceJ0ck0 - 02-18-2017
(02-18-2017, 08:56 AM)Hexadecimal Wrote: 1. I'm going to believe my friend who actually LIVES in Japan and not some random rude guy on a forum who continuously makes me dislike him even more.
2. My friend has been having a really hard time there because she is very overworked and they're mad at her because she's been getting sick. You can't know what she's going through, so stop being an asshole.
1. http://www.japan-guide.com/forum/quereadisplay.html?0+80780
https://injapan.gaijinpot.com/uncategorized/2009/12/16/scents-and-sensibility-perfume-in-japan/
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Japanese-people-tend-not-to-wear-perfume
http://www.kafkaesqueblog.com/2014/05/28/china-japans-fragrance-markets-culture/
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Japanese-girls-smell-good
http://howibecametexan.com/2013/03/21/5-rules-of-train-etiquette-in-japan-that-you-should-never-break/
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2010/07/24/our-lives/the-art-of-sweating-in-japan/#.WKiB2NThDGg
2.What does that has to do with wearing skirts at your workplace becuase that's the norm there? Besides, you are the one spitting on my face despite the fact that I quindly offered an answer for your concerns.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - retrolinkx - 02-18-2017
(02-16-2017, 12:26 PM)Hexadecimal Wrote: My friend who teaches in Japan is having a hard time right now.
She found out from her boss one school she teaches at has filed multiple complaints about her. You're never going to guess why... It's for not being "feminine" enough. I am not joking. I didn't realize Japan was THAT bad when it comes to gender roles.
Two things she mentioned that had me in shock was that they don't like that she doesn't wear perfume and they expect her to wear skirts everyday. Once her contract is up I think she's probably going to back to the States and staying here.
Japan is unfortunately just like that, you have to follow their customs or you're just not going to get hired or respected.
Like, they discriminate people for being fat (in a way it's actually quite good since it makes people want to lose weight) and things like honorifics after names and stuff. It's just their culture and you have to follow what they say, even if it's hard to do.
When my mother went to Pakistan with my father, she had to wear Pakistani dresses because it was the norm over there, and had to be with a man out in the streets (mainly for her own safety, but also norms).
I'm sure we probably have customs that confuse the Japanese, like not putting a mask on our faces when we have a cold and stuff.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - ZpaceJ0ck0 - 02-19-2017
^
Refer to my posts above you. It's actually more simple than you think.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - Psychospacecow - 02-19-2017
Of course, there's always nuance with region specific things. What may be indicative of a nation isn't necessarily representative of it, and depending where the emphasis of data collection is placed, it can be very misleading.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - CosmykTheDolfyn - 02-20-2017
I can say having learned multiple languages and lived in multiple countries, stuff is ALWAYS more nuanced than what the internet often says.
Somethings will simply always be lost in translation, and you won't understand everything until you experience it first hand.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - SERIOUSLY THOUGH - 02-20-2017
I just wanted to point out that the Ontario logo looks like three people in a hot-tub.
![[Image: Logo_Ontario1.jpg]](https://www.lawsonimaging.ca/imaging/sites/default/files/Logo_Ontario1.jpg){kind=logo}
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - Psychospacecow - 02-20-2017
Looks like a flower design for a soccer ball.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - SERIOUSLY THOUGH - 02-20-2017
(02-20-2017, 07:16 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: Looks like a flower design for a soccer ball.
Well it actually represents the provincial flower, the Trillium, so you're at least half right !
I'm also choosing to believe the other half is right, too.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - CosmykTheDolfyn - 02-21-2017
(02-20-2017, 08:17 PM)Zpace Jockey Wrote:(02-20-2017, 03:06 PM)CosmykTheDolfyn Wrote: I can say having learned multiple languages
What other languagues have you learned aside from Spanish? I'm just curious.
Pieces of American Sign Language, Arawak and some of the intricacies of Pidgin English.
(Shh I also want to learn a bit of Klingon shh)
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - ZpaceJ0ck0 - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 09:32 AM)CosmykTheDolfyn Wrote:(02-20-2017, 08:17 PM)Zpace Jockey Wrote:(02-20-2017, 03:06 PM)CosmykTheDolfyn Wrote: I can say having learned multiple languages
What other languagues have you learned aside from Spanish? I'm just curious.
Pieces of American Sign Language, Arawak and some of the intricacies of Pidgin English.
(Shh I also want to learn a bit of Klingon shh)
TIL that they are variations of the sing language depending on the country.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - SERIOUSLY THOUGH - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 05:23 PM)Zpace Jockey Wrote:(02-21-2017, 09:32 AM)CosmykTheDolfyn Wrote:(02-20-2017, 08:17 PM)Zpace Jockey Wrote: What other languagues have you learned aside from Spanish? I'm just curious.
Pieces of American Sign Language, Arawak and some of the intricacies of Pidgin English.
(Shh I also want to learn a bit of Klingon shh)
TIL that they are variations of the sing language depending on the country.
It's an absolutely fascinating subject.
Each language tends to take from their culture to create gestures that would make sense to their speakers.
Even within the same language American Sign Language differs from British, etc etc.
French Sign Llanguage differs from Québec Sign Language.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - CosmykTheDolfyn - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 06:19 PM)SERIOUSLY THOUGH Wrote:When I took a few classes of ASL back in college (been so long, I only remember a little nowadays), I had one professor that was from a British background and was incredibly formal in his ASL still just due to his British background. My other professor was a woman who had been deaf her whole life and felt entirely fine using all the slang and shortcuts in her signing, as it was the way her and her friends actually spoke. I saw the two of them clash heads several times on whether the curriculum should be more formal and then introduce those aspects later or just show the students everything right from the start. It was fairly funny and amazing.(02-21-2017, 05:23 PM)Zpace Jockey Wrote:(02-21-2017, 09:32 AM)CosmykTheDolfyn Wrote: Pieces of American Sign Language, Arawak and some of the intricacies of Pidgin English.
(Shh I also want to learn a bit of Klingon shh)
TIL that they are variations of the sing language depending on the country.
It's an absolutely fascinating subject.
Each language tends to take from their culture to create gestures that would make sense to their speakers.
Even within the same language American Sign Language differs from British, etc etc.
French Sign Llanguage differs from Québec Sign Language.
Also, there are real accents in Sign Language too. West ASL vs East ASL is fairly different. AND babies with deaf mothers have been observed making "babble" with their hands the same way hearing children babble as they try to learn to speak any other spoken language. It's all really cool.
I've also started some an online Welsh course. Now THAT is a bizarre language in it's configurations, I feel like I'm talking like Yoda 24/7 with it.
RE: The Chit-Chat Thread v3: Electric Potpourri - SERIOUSLY THOUGH - 02-25-2017
By the by, I have a Twitter now, mainly for the Barrel-Cat Gaming Podcast.
Feel free to send me some love or insults : https://twitter.com/SERIOUSLY613
EDIT - Thanks to Cosmyk for archeologising that picture from the past !