Shin Megami Tensei Related

[Takahashi2212]

You know, I got a vita almost specifically for Persona 4 Golden, and when I went to get the game, it was out. Here's hoping it'll be there when I go to pick up my Type 0 game on the 17th, because I will buy it without a thought if it's available. Just watched some gameplay of it and man it looks like fun. Having a watched a decent amount of the original PS2 version, I honestly say I already saw a few new things I want to try for myself.

You won't be disappointed. However, if you are going to play Persona 3, I would recommend playing it first. Not for any plot reasons, but because a lot of the problems I had with Persona 3 were fixed, and playing Persona 3 second could feel like a downgrade. Or you look into Persona 3 Portable. A lot of Persona 4's changes were added to P3P, but the game was altered to fit the restrictive PSP.

EDIT: Didn't want to double-post, so I'll just add my comment here. I just hit the September school trip. My god I love this game even more. The entire thing is just amazing. Spoiler: You visit Tatsumi Port Island, which is where Persona 3 took place. So as you might expect you visit locations from Persona 3. You start with Gekkoukan High School, and I was so happy to see they brought back Chihiro! She was one of my favorite characters in Persona 3, so I was glad to see her back (and finally with a proper voice actress, rather than just text), Although I'm angry the game just dangled her in front of me and I can't interact with her at all. I wanted talk with her, and hopefully start another Social Link (a man can dream). *sigh* I guess Yu will never know her. Anyway, the entire time, Persona 3 music is playing, which was amazing. They even had smaller references like the hotel you stay at is being Love Hotel on Shirokawa Boulevard you fight the Lovers Arcana Boss at. It even has the same interior if you look through the doors! Then the club where it plays The Persona 3 FES intro song on loop is the best thing ever (I've got a soft spot for cheesy rap music), while a really funny (and awkward scene) where Yukiko, Rise, and Teddie get drunk only to have the punchline be that they never actually drank any alcohol. Nothing really big happens after that. At the end of the day, it was just a huge Persona 3 nostalgia wank, but it was still a great event, and probably the most enjoyable part of the game so far.

[RepentantSky]

I got persona 4 golden. I feel like an idiot for not realizing the voice actor for Yosuke is the same as one for the dude on my profile picture here. I've played about 4 hours so far, really liking it so far. I'm surprised I didn't know about these games when they came out on the PS2. They are amazing.

[Takahashi2212]

I got persona 4 golden. I feel like an idiot for not realizing the voice actor for Yosuke is the same as one for the dude on my profile picture here. I've played about 4 hours so far, really liking it so far. I'm surprised I didn't know about these games when they came out on the PS2. They are amazing.

Yeah, Yuri Lowenthal gets around. He is actually the voice for three major characters in Persona 3 (The Protagonist, Ryoji, and Pharos) and several additional voices. I guess he has like a blood debt to ATLUS. Glad to here you're liking the game.

[RepentantSky]

I got persona 4 golden. I feel like an idiot for not realizing the voice actor for Yosuke is the same as one for the dude on my profile picture here. I've played about 4 hours so far, really liking it so far. I'm surprised I didn't know about these games when they came out on the PS2. They are amazing.

Yeah, Yuri Lowenthal gets around. He is actually the voice for three major characters in Persona 3 (The Protagonist, Ryoji, and Pharos) and several additional voices. I guess he has like a blood debt to ATLUS. Glad to here you're liking the game.

He's not the only one pulling at least double duty. JYB has Adachi Tohru and Yu Narukami. Even if Yu hardly says anything it would be easy to tell it was him without playing Persona Q where he has a voice if you play the P3 team. I haven't found anyone else he's playing yet but I'm only about to wrap up Marukyu, he might be someone I haven't met yet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm hearing some Sam Riegel in there with the minor characters as well. He played Silabus in dot hack GU and Jude Mathis in Tales of Xillia 1 and 2 among other things and correct me if I'm wrong but I think he's also Teddie.

[gamemaster1991]

He's not the only one pulling at least double duty. JYB has Adachi Tohru and Yu Narukami. Even if Yu hardly says anything it would be easy to tell it was him without playing Persona Q where he has a voice if you play the P3 team. I haven't found anyone else he's playing yet but I'm only about to wrap up Marukyu, he might be someone I haven't met yet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm hearing some Sam Riegel in there with the minor characters as well. He played Silabus in dot hack GU and Jude Mathis in Tales of Xillia 1 and 2 among other things and correct me if I'm wrong but I think he's also Teddie.

The best thing about Teddie is that he shares the same voice actors of best buds Silabus and Gaspard in GU (Sam Riegel and Dave Wittenberg).

Also JYB went in for Adachi and was given Yu just to give him a voice. He was told to give him the same voice as Adachi. As the animation and Arena came along, he started seeing the problum with having two characters with the same voice and wanted them to recast Yu. They said no and he had to change up Yu's voice a bit.
^Proof!^

EDIT: Same video, 31:44 as well.

[RepentantSky]

I decided not to watch that just in case there are spoilers. Speaking of though, it is wrong for me to suspect Adachi is up to something? I haven't found any evidence to say that he is, but I mean, it's a common story trope that the lazy guy who bumbles a lot is often playing the fool which in this case would literally be Yu and his team and the game did come out when tropes like that were used often in JRPG's. I just get this feeling that he's gonna turn on me at some point. It doesn't help that I saw the character list for the game and since I was looking for him specifically I of course found him under the antagonist list. I didn't think much of it but I'm putting some pieces together that the story hasn't given me yet and that's kind of the conclusion I came up with. I get the feeling though that he isn't the main antagonist, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was either. It's also not unheard of for a voice actor to play both the protagonist and antagonist even if, so far as I know, JYB didn't go in knowing he'd be both. What's more, I don't buy that someone at another high school, yet alone a student is really the criminal even if this person I haven't met yet is (assuming I do at all) is capable of not only killing two girls but throwing Kanji into the tv and overpowering Morooka and setting him up the way it happened. Perhaps I'm thinking too much, but really, I'm only about to take the finals in the game, I doubt I'm being led the right direction three months into a game that spans 11 and has you play all those days.

[Takahashi2212]

I decided not to watch that just in case there are spoilers. Speaking of though, it is wrong for me to suspect Adachi is up to something? I haven't found any evidence to say that he is, but I mean, it's a common story trope that the lazy guy who bumbles a lot is often playing the fool which in this case would literally be Yu and his team and the game did come out when tropes like that were used often in JRPG's. I just get this feeling that he's gonna turn on me at some point. It doesn't help that I saw the character list for the game and since I was looking for him specifically I of course found him under the antagonist list. I didn't think much of it but I'm putting some pieces together that the story hasn't given me yet and that's kind of the conclusion I came up with. I get the feeling though that he isn't the main antagonist, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was either. It's also not unheard of for a voice actor to play both the protagonist and antagonist even if, so far as I know, JYB didn't go in knowing he'd be both. What's more, I don't buy that someone at another high school, yet alone a student is really the criminal even if this person I haven't met yet is (assuming I do at all) is capable of not only killing two girls but throwing Kanji into the tv and overpowering Morooka and setting him up the way it happened. Perhaps I'm thinking too much, but really, I'm only about to take the finals in the game, I doubt I'm being led the right direction three months into a game that spans 11 and has you play all those days.

If I answer the question either way = spoilers. So I'm not going to. But, just know I spoiled the game for myself as well. Just know, Spoiler: Persona 3 did the whole false ending thing as well, although it happened way later in the game (November as opposed to August).. <--- (semi-spoiler for Persona 3 and 4.)

[RepentantSky]

This will not come off as the gamiest thing I've ever said, but the Void quest is pretty lame. Not only am I blazing through it like it ain't no thang, but gaming stereotypes in a game like this is just odd and not fun.

[Takahashi2212]

This will not come off as the gamiest thing I've ever said, but the Void quest is pretty lame. Not only am I blazing through it like it ain't no thang, but gaming stereotypes in a game like this is just odd and not fun.

I didn't hate Void Quest, but compared to the other dungeons it is visually and musically boring.

EDIT: No double posting, so I'll append my feelings to this post. I'm kind of annoyed that (SPOILERS FOR PERSONA 3 AND 4) Spoiler: ATLUS used the same plot device of "Kill X (Ryoji/Namatame) for bad ending, Don't kill for good ending." Although it is nice to have a bad and good ending, I fidn it dumb that these are the only ways to achieve them. I did like inclusions of a neutral ending (even if it didn't change much, it make me happy to see Nanako alive) and the fact that there are 2 more Spoiler:bad endings in Persona 4 Golden, so look out for those RepentantSky (BTW, don't read this until you get to like December in the game. Then this stuff won't be a spoiler.)

[RepentantSky]

I beat void quest the same day it got to it. Nothing about it was hard or interesting. Now I have something like 20 days to do practically nothing. I'll probably end up going back to the tv if I can just to train characters I'm not using like like Teddie and Kanji since I haven't done much with either of them. Void Quest was seriously stupid and easy for no reason. Marukyu was harder and despite the odd setting, far more interesting. Even the baths felt like they were trying to something cultural across to a player of the game, even if only a little. Void Quest was about as lazy as most games of today that try to sell themselves as something different even though they just end up as clones of games like pid or old school Mario.

[Takahashi2212]

I beat void quest the same day it got to it. Nothing about it was hard or interesting. Now I have something like 20 days to do practically nothing. I'll probably end up going back to the tv if I can just to train characters I'm not using like like Teddie and Kanji since I haven't done much with either of them. Void Quest was seriously stupid and easy for no reason. Marukyu was harder and despite the odd setting, far more interesting. Even the baths felt like they were trying to something cultural across to a player of the game, even if only a little. Void Quest was about as lazy as most games of today that try to sell themselves as something different even though they just end up as clones of games like pid or old school Mario.

Funny thing is, I've beaten every dungeon within 2-3 days of being allowed in, so I've always had that ~25 days to do nothing but level up S. Links.

Looking back, Void Quest was kind of annoying. The layout was annoying, the visuals, while charming, were bland, and the boss is just.... ugh. 

I really hate Shadow Mistuo. That boss is just annoying as hell. The fact that it can regen armor, attack twice in a turn, and then said armor can attack your entire team for like almost all of your health is just ridiculous. When the armor is gone, the boss is easy as pie. What is even worse is that the boss can regen 2/3 of it's armor in one turn due to the fact it can attack twice.

[RepentantSky]

I beat void quest the same day it got to it. Nothing about it was hard or interesting. Now I have something like 20 days to do practically nothing. I'll probably end up going back to the tv if I can just to train characters I'm not using like like Teddie and Kanji since I haven't done much with either of them. Void Quest was seriously stupid and easy for no reason. Marukyu was harder and despite the odd setting, far more interesting. Even the baths felt like they were trying to something cultural across to a player of the game, even if only a little. Void Quest was about as lazy as most games of today that try to sell themselves as something different even though they just end up as clones of games like pid or old school Mario.

Funny thing is, I've beaten every dungeon within 2-3 days of being allowed in, so I've always had that ~25 days to do nothing but level up S. Links.

Looking back, Void Quest was kind of annoying. The layout was annoying, the visuals, while charming, were bland, and the boss is just.... ugh. 

I really hate Shadow Mistuo. That boss is just annoying as hell. The fact that it can regen armor, attack twice in a turn, and then said armor can attack your entire team for like almost all of your health is just ridiculous. When the armor is gone, the boss is easy as pie. What is even worse is that the boss can regen 2/3 of it's armor in one turn due to the fact it can attack twice.

Maybe I was advanced for that boss fight, but I completely destroyed it in a matter of about 10 minutes. I think the most it did to me was 200 damage to a single character and about 100 when the armor cast a spell. I also managed to beat it with the same armor and weapons as the ones I went in with that I used for most of Marukyu. I went and upgraded everyone after the fact. Perhaps level 46 was too high for that boss? Whatever the case, I'll probably go back and beat the extra boss now and level up some other persona's I haven't been using to try and get more powerful ones. Despite how easy the place is, it does drop a lot of money and EXP for you, so I guess it has that going for it.

[Takahashi2212]

I beat void quest the same day it got to it. Nothing about it was hard or interesting. Now I have something like 20 days to do practically nothing. I'll probably end up going back to the tv if I can just to train characters I'm not using like like Teddie and Kanji since I haven't done much with either of them. Void Quest was seriously stupid and easy for no reason. Marukyu was harder and despite the odd setting, far more interesting. Even the baths felt like they were trying to something cultural across to a player of the game, even if only a little. Void Quest was about as lazy as most games of today that try to sell themselves as something different even though they just end up as clones of games like pid or old school Mario.

Funny thing is, I've beaten every dungeon within 2-3 days of being allowed in, so I've always had that ~25 days to do nothing but level up S. Links.

Looking back, Void Quest was kind of annoying. The layout was annoying, the visuals, while charming, were bland, and the boss is just.... ugh. 

I really hate Shadow Mistuo. That boss is just annoying as hell. The fact that it can regen armor, attack twice in a turn, and then said armor can attack your entire team for like almost all of your health is just ridiculous. When the armor is gone, the boss is easy as pie. What is even worse is that the boss can regen 2/3 of it's armor in one turn due to the fact it can attack twice.

Maybe I was advanced for that boss fight, but I completely destroyed it in a matter of about 10 minutes. I think the most it did to me was 200 damage to a single character and about 100 when the armor cast a spell. I also managed to beat it with the same armor and weapons as the ones I went in with that I used for most of Marukyu. I went and upgraded everyone after the fact. Perhaps level 46 was too high for that boss? Whatever the case, I'll probably go back and beat the extra boss now and level up some other persona's I haven't been using to try and get more powerful ones. Despite how easy the place is, it does drop a lot of money and EXP for you, so I guess it has that going for it.

I'm starting to think I've been just underleveled this entire game. I've had to grind a couple levels for every boss so far. The boss itself was incredibly easy, but the armor was just annoying to fight. Gigadyne would always almost kill me.

[RepentantSky]

Funny thing is, I've beaten every dungeon within 2-3 days of being allowed in, so I've always had that ~25 days to do nothing but level up S. Links.

Looking back, Void Quest was kind of annoying. The layout was annoying, the visuals, while charming, were bland, and the boss is just.... ugh. 

I really hate Shadow Mistuo. That boss is just annoying as hell. The fact that it can regen armor, attack twice in a turn, and then said armor can attack your entire team for like almost all of your health is just ridiculous. When the armor is gone, the boss is easy as pie. What is even worse is that the boss can regen 2/3 of it's armor in one turn due to the fact it can attack twice.

Maybe I was advanced for that boss fight, but I completely destroyed it in a matter of about 10 minutes. I think the most it did to me was 200 damage to a single character and about 100 when the armor cast a spell. I also managed to beat it with the same armor and weapons as the ones I went in with that I used for most of Marukyu. I went and upgraded everyone after the fact. Perhaps level 46 was too high for that boss? Whatever the case, I'll probably go back and beat the extra boss now and level up some other persona's I haven't been using to try and get more powerful ones. Despite how easy the place is, it does drop a lot of money and EXP for you, so I guess it has that going for it.

I'm starting to think I've been just underleveled this entire game. I've had to grind a couple levels for every boss so far. The boss itself was incredibly easy, but the armor was just annoying to fight. Gigadyne would always almost kill me.

See I had Kikuri-Hime with Mediarahan so fully healing cost a simple 30sp. All I had to do was keep Yu from running out of SP and it was an easy boss. 

[Takahashi2212]

Maybe I was advanced for that boss fight, but I completely destroyed it in a matter of about 10 minutes. I think the most it did to me was 200 damage to a single character and about 100 when the armor cast a spell. I also managed to beat it with the same armor and weapons as the ones I went in with that I used for most of Marukyu. I went and upgraded everyone after the fact. Perhaps level 46 was too high for that boss? Whatever the case, I'll probably go back and beat the extra boss now and level up some other persona's I haven't been using to try and get more powerful ones. Despite how easy the place is, it does drop a lot of money and EXP for you, so I guess it has that going for it.

I'm starting to think I've been just underleveled this entire game. I've had to grind a couple levels for every boss so far. The boss itself was incredibly easy, but the armor was just annoying to fight. Gigadyne would always almost kill me.

See I had Kikuri-Hime with Mediarahan so fully healing cost a simple 30sp. All I had to do was keep Yu from running out of SP and it was an easy boss. 

Ahh. I've been rocking Eligor for most of the game. The only healing I had was Teddie and Yosuke.