(01-08-2014, 10:24 PM)Hexadecimal Wrote: I was unfortunately pretty young when Daria came out, so I only got to see a handful of episodes during the rare and erratic times when MTV chose to re-run them. The entire series was available on Amazon for only $13, so I pounced on it.

Turns out it's so cheap since they had to cut out all the music, but I'm still enjoying it. I'm only almost done with disc 2 but I know I'll be pretty sad once I get it all finished.

This got me curious so I took a look on Amazon, don't know if this is the one you bought
http://www.amazon.com/Daria-The-Complete...ords=daria ,
but if so then you got it just in time as it is around $4 more than your original price.

That sounds cheap though that they cut music out of the show. I'm sure there are dvd releases out there that do things like that, but still when I go to buy something like a show I really liked, I'd want all that it had to offer and not 3/4 of it.

I know what you mean after you finish a show that is done. Did that with a few shows I watched on Netflix where I pretty much marathoned through the entire series and then was sad because there is no more to come. Did that with West Wing and then Fringe (although it got really weird by the end, even for that show that is founded on really weird).

What current shows does everyone watch?

Regular Basis:
The Walking Dead
Talking Dead
American Horror Story
RuPaul's Drag Race
Orange is the New Black
King of the Nerds

Catch up when I can:
Best Ink
Face Off
Girls*
Game of Thrones*
Once Upon a Time
Criminal Minds

*For HBO shows, I have to wait until it's online and use my friends login.

Regular Basis:
Arrow
Once Upon A Time
Once Upon A Time in Wonderland
Marvel Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Supernatural
Naruto Shippuden

Catch up when I can:
Game of Thrones
Newsroom
Doctor Who


Used to be a lot more shows than that, but from either cancellations or show just ran its course there isn't a whole lot left for me to watch. Thank you Netflix and Hulu for letting me watch what shows I can since work has me scheduled when those shows are on.

At the moment, not too many.

Regular Basis:
Ridiculousness
Impractical Jokers
Graham Norton

A lot of the shows I watch aren't on at the moment, but will be.

Note that I only ever watch TV shows when they are on TV here and some series we are now getting here are over almost everywhere else already. God damn January and all the TV shows they start showing now. I don't have the time to watch TV this much D:

Regular basis:
Dexter
Grimm
Arrow
Sleepy Hollow
Revolution
Walking Dead (continue already!)
South Park (this I watch online)
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (same as above)

Catch up when I can:
Doctor Who (whenever I get the next DVD set in mail)
Lost (I'm still stuck at season 4)
Prison Break (still need to watch the last 3-4 episodes)


I'm not even going to start with all the anime I'm watching.

I dont usually watch that much TV, but...

Regular basis:


Impractical Jokers
Walking dead

Here's a list of shows that I am currently regularly watching:











That's right, nothing! Yay!

Yeah, scratching Revolution from my list. That series wasn't anything it was cut out to be. And seriously? Flintlocks? Really? What happened to the numerous iterations of the Kalashnikov? Or the guns American families are so fond of keeping in their homes? And you choose to use flintlocks, the least useful weapons since the 19th century. Allrighty then. What, you robbed a museum or something? A museum that miraculously had this amount of fully working flintlock guns? Yep, this is a way more plausible scenario than, you know, using modern guns. Because obviously those don't work without electricity and are way less in numbers than antiquities.

Rant over. Fuck sake.

(01-17-2014, 01:39 PM)Mass Distraction Wrote: Yeah, scratching Revolution from my list. That series wasn't anything it was cut out to be. And seriously? Flintlocks? Really? What happened to the numerous iterations of the Kalashnikov? Or the guns American families are so fond of keeping in their homes? And you choose to use flintlocks, the least useful weapons since the 19th century. Allrighty then. What, you robbed a museum or something? A museum that miraculously had this amount of fully working flintlock guns? Yep, this is a way more plausible scenario than, you know, using modern guns. Because obviously those don't work without electricity and are way less in numbers than antiquities.

Rant over. Fuck sake.

I agree with you about the antique guns, but my guess is the explanation will be because many of the modern tools used to make guns or ammo used electricity. How many of the tools that could make modern weapons and ammo exist today that don't use it? I do like that they kinda went Civil War era type weapons in some cases even the swords and sabers bit.

I'm not ready yet to give up, I'm gonna wait till the whole season is on Netflix so I can watch an episode here and there and not have to be so invested with time and energy by watching it from start to finish each season. Plus just got Hulu Plus so I at least could stay caught up with shows if I chose to do so.

I'm worried though that it will turn into another Heroes where the first season was really good and showed a lot of promise but then gets so caught up in its own Hubris that it tanks quickly but they keep feeding what little fire it has left till it just dies.

(01-17-2014, 03:43 PM)GameWizard001 Wrote:

(01-17-2014, 01:39 PM)Mass Distraction Wrote: Yeah, scratching Revolution from my list. That series wasn't anything it was cut out to be. And seriously? Flintlocks? Really? What happened to the numerous iterations of the Kalashnikov? Or the guns American families are so fond of keeping in their homes? And you choose to use flintlocks, the least useful weapons since the 19th century. Allrighty then. What, you robbed a museum or something? A museum that miraculously had this amount of fully working flintlock guns? Yep, this is a way more plausible scenario than, you know, using modern guns. Because obviously those don't work without electricity and are way less in numbers than antiquities.

Rant over. Fuck sake.

I agree with you about the antique guns, but my guess is the explanation will be because many of the modern tools used to make guns or ammo used electricity. How many of the tools that could make modern weapons and ammo exist today that don't use it? I do like that they kinda went Civil War era type weapons in some cases even the swords and sabers bit.

The swords and sabers I can understand, that's just conserving ammo. BUT, considering the ridiculous amounts of weaponry and ammunition existing in this world at this moment I can't believe people would go through every bullet in 15 years. What more, the chances of even finding one, let alone enough to equip a whole army with, flintlock guns that still work are ridiculously low. Besides, look at I am Legend, Last of Us and Land of the Dead. All of those are more than 10 years after everything went to shit and they still have modern guns, which I find way more believable than what this show has. Also the main character's (?) potential love interest was so obvious in everything he did that I got insta-bored.

(01-17-2014, 03:49 PM)Mass Distraction Wrote:

(01-17-2014, 03:43 PM)GameWizard001 Wrote:

(01-17-2014, 01:39 PM)Mass Distraction Wrote: Yeah, scratching Revolution from my list. That series wasn't anything it was cut out to be. And seriously? Flintlocks? Really? What happened to the numerous iterations of the Kalashnikov? Or the guns American families are so fond of keeping in their homes? And you choose to use flintlocks, the least useful weapons since the 19th century. Allrighty then. What, you robbed a museum or something? A museum that miraculously had this amount of fully working flintlock guns? Yep, this is a way more plausible scenario than, you know, using modern guns. Because obviously those don't work without electricity and are way less in numbers than antiquities.

Rant over. Fuck sake.

I agree with you about the antique guns, but my guess is the explanation will be because many of the modern tools used to make guns or ammo used electricity. How many of the tools that could make modern weapons and ammo exist today that don't use it? I do like that they kinda went Civil War era type weapons in some cases even the swords and sabers bit.

The swords and sabers I can understand, that's just conserving ammo. BUT, considering the ridiculous amounts of weaponry and ammunition existing in this world at this moment I can't believe people would go through every bullet in 15 years. What more, the chances of even finding one, let alone enough to equip a whole army with, flintlock guns that still work are ridiculously low. Besides, look at I am Legend, Last of Us and Land of the Dead. All of those are more than 10 years after everything went to shit and they still have modern guns, which I find way more believable than what this show has. Also the main character's (?) potential love interest was so obvious in everything he did that I got insta-bored.

I agree with that point, the flintlocks that exist today are far from firing conditions, essentially a big pipe bomb since I doubt many would take care of it even if it was a family heirloom, otherwise as you said from a museum. One possibility though is they learned how to make them themselves. Then again, if you are teaching yourself how to make guns why not learn how to make a Winchester repeating rifle or a revolver if you want weapons that don't require high precision machinery to produce and just a lot of man power and man hours to do.

If I recall though, the militia/government went all martial law on society and said that all civilians are prohibited from having fire arms in case the locals rise up against "The Man." I think there was an episode early in season one where a guy was killed for having an American flag but before that he was being questioned about how he killed a deer. that is when a rifle was found, looked pretty typical hunting rifle. So maybe they only allow flintlocks to them for that reason as it still makes the regular people have the least amount of firepower compared to the milita.

I can somewhat understand that but still, literally the only reason I can think of for the characters having these weapons in such abundance is that the producers had some leftover 17th century weapons from some other series' or film's set and they just wanted to use them for something.

Oh, and it was the militia themselves that I keep seeing using the flintlocks. At first I did think that maybe they are just reserving the better guns for themselves but apparently not.

Btw. I kept laughing at that one guy in the first episode just slamming his sword into Charlie's crossbow when he could have, you know, stabbed her with it. Milita doesn't seem to actually train their soldiers in efficient use of their weaponry.

(01-17-2014, 04:10 PM)GameWizard001 Wrote:

(01-17-2014, 03:49 PM)Mass Distraction Wrote:

(01-17-2014, 03:43 PM)GameWizard001 Wrote:

(01-17-2014, 01:39 PM)Mass Distraction Wrote: Yeah, scratching Revolution from my list. That series wasn't anything it was cut out to be. And seriously? Flintlocks? Really? What happened to the numerous iterations of the Kalashnikov? Or the guns American families are so fond of keeping in their homes? And you choose to use flintlocks, the least useful weapons since the 19th century. Allrighty then. What, you robbed a museum or something? A museum that miraculously had this amount of fully working flintlock guns? Yep, this is a way more plausible scenario than, you know, using modern guns. Because obviously those don't work without electricity and are way less in numbers than antiquities.

Rant over. Fuck sake.

I agree with you about the antique guns, but my guess is the explanation will be because many of the modern tools used to make guns or ammo used electricity. How many of the tools that could make modern weapons and ammo exist today that don't use it? I do like that they kinda went Civil War era type weapons in some cases even the swords and sabers bit.

The swords and sabers I can understand, that's just conserving ammo. BUT, considering the ridiculous amounts of weaponry and ammunition existing in this world at this moment I can't believe people would go through every bullet in 15 years. What more, the chances of even finding one, let alone enough to equip a whole army with, flintlock guns that still work are ridiculously low. Besides, look at I am Legend, Last of Us and Land of the Dead. All of those are more than 10 years after everything went to shit and they still have modern guns, which I find way more believable than what this show has. Also the main character's (?) potential love interest was so obvious in everything he did that I got insta-bored.

I agree with that point, the flintlocks that exist today are far from firing conditions, essentially a big pipe bomb since I doubt many would take care of it even if it was a family heirloom, otherwise as you said from a museum. One possibility though is they learned how to make them themselves. Then again, if you are teaching yourself how to make guns why not learn how to make a Winchester repeating rifle or a revolver if you want weapons that don't require high precision machinery to produce and just a lot of man power and man hours to do.

If I recall though, the militia/government went all martial law on society and said that all civilians are prohibited from having fire arms in case the locals rise up against "The Man." I think there was an episode early in season one where a guy was killed for having an American flag but before that he was being questioned about how he killed a deer. that is when a rifle was found, looked pretty typical hunting rifle. So maybe they only allow flintlocks to them for that reason as it still makes the regular people have the least amount of firepower compared to the milita.

Honestly, the main reason why something like a flintlock is more likely that a good revolver or lever rifle is precisely because it does require complex machining. The weapon itself may be simple but making the parts and not having everything fail is a lot more complicated than a pistol with loose black powder inserted in the back and a ball at the front with a flint hammer. I haven't watch this show, (or any outside of netflix in over a month) but I doubt the common person is going to be a machinist.

(01-17-2014, 05:13 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: Honestly, the main reason why something like a flintlock is more likely that a good revolver or lever rifle is precisely because it does require complex machining. The weapon itself may be simple but making the parts and not having everything fail is a lot more complicated than a pistol with loose black powder inserted in the back and a ball at the front with a flint hammer. I haven't watch this show, (or any outside of netflix in over a month) but I doubt the common person is going to be a machinist.

Yeah, after reading my own post you have a very good point. The machining required even if it was period style machine tools, would still require someone who knows how to use it and has had experience with it. Most modern gun makers may have some idea of what to do with the more hand operated tools but have better skill with computerized mills like you see on Sons of Guns or American Guns. They still use either pre-made or computer milled parts instead of hand crafted ones.

And your final part is also the most important: of all the people in America, how many of them could do it? Even if there was a decent amount, how many are able to teach the skills needed, or those who even want to or can learn the trade?

Then of course the militia would scoop them up anyway because they can make weapons for them. So the regular people are still stuck with flintlocks.

Still, I don't think a regular joe is able to make flintlocks either. Flintlocks that work and don't explode on your face.

In any case, at least in the beginning of the first season they seriously rush things, the first episode having stuff happen that normally could have taken a full season. Instead of all this fastforwarding they could at least try to explain some of the lore of their show.

I fear this is going to end up being just another gigantic mystery ala Lost. Which I also need to finish.