(01-22-2014, 11:51 PM)Ghenry Wrote: Maybe hate is a strong word, but I think it was far too hyped up by . . . pretty much everybody.

Not going by the original source is fine, if the material is still good. I do not think First Class succeeded in this case. Everybody was easily forgettable, especially characters that weren't established in the previous films. The script was also pretty hackmeat most of the time, I just couldn't stay interested. Sure, it's better than The Last Stand. Damn near ANYTHING was better than The Last Stand. That doesn't mean the film doesn't have problems.

I think it's better to have one slip up than to have it beat you over the head say "Look! It's the 60's! Look! Bellbottoms! Afros! Go-Go Boots! Elvis! TIE-DIE!!!!!! WOOOO."

That being said, I agree that most of the characters are forgettable. The one thing we remember from X-Men movies are the powers and, I have to say, other than Mystique, Professor X, Magneto, Beast, and Emma Frost (who was already in X-men Origins), I had no clue who ANYONE was. I remember a guy who yelled, someone betraying them, someone (I think the black guy) dieing, and Nightcrawlers dad. I'm a big nerd (to the point I know who Nightcrawler's dad is) and if I don't know who you are, you must be obscure to the non-fans (I'm looking at you Sebastian Shaw/Keven Bacon).

I still like it though.

(01-23-2014, 12:40 AM)gamemaster1991 Wrote:

(01-22-2014, 11:51 PM)Ghenry Wrote: Maybe hate is a strong word, but I think it was far too hyped up by . . . pretty much everybody.

Not going by the original source is fine, if the material is still good. I do not think First Class succeeded in this case. Everybody was easily forgettable, especially characters that weren't established in the previous films. The script was also pretty hackmeat most of the time, I just couldn't stay interested. Sure, it's better than The Last Stand. Damn near ANYTHING was better than The Last Stand. That doesn't mean the film doesn't have problems.

I think it's better to have one slip up than to have it beat you over the head say "Look! It's the 60's! Look! Bellbottoms! Afros! Go-Go Boots! Elvis! TIE-DIE!!!!!! WOOOO."

That being said, I agree that most of the characters are forgettable. The one thing we remember from X-Men movies are the powers and, I have to say, other than Mystique, Professor X, Magneto, Beast, and Emma Frost (who was already in X-men Origins), I had no clue who ANYONE was. I remember a guy who yelled, someone betraying them, someone (I think the black guy) dieing, and Nightcrawlers dad. I'm a big nerd (to the point I know who Nightcrawler's dad is) and if I don't know who you are, you must be obscure to the non-fans (I'm looking at you Sebastian Shaw/Keven Bacon).

I still like it though.

I would also say that if Shaw wasn't played so well by Kevin Bacon you could have just called him Mr. McBadGuy and no one would have cared.

(01-22-2014, 11:51 PM)Ghenry Wrote: Maybe hate is a strong word, but I think it was far too hyped up by . . . pretty much everybody.

Not going by the original source is fine, if the material is still good. I do not think First Class succeeded in this case. Everybody was easily forgettable, especially characters that weren't established in the previous films. The script was also pretty hackmeat most of the time, I just couldn't stay interested. Sure, it's better than The Last Stand. Damn near ANYTHING was better than The Last Stand. That doesn't mean the film doesn't have problems.

I also feel they did a poor job representing the era it was suppose to take place in, which was the 60's. Doesn't help that they used a 2008 song.

So, while everyone was saying this was the perfect comic book movie, I thought it had a poor storyline and dissatisfying ending. I also really don't like Michael Fassbender. The only role I think he did a perfect job was the cyborg from Prometheus.

Can't agree with you about Last stand either. I don't agree with what you said here about first class as well. I really don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. The only forgettable character I can think of is the one who used his voice to help him fly. The other characters all stood out enough for me.

As for using a 2008 song, the whole point was for reaction's sake. It's not the first movie to be set in one decade and use a song from one that came several decades later. Also, the characters are almost constantly surrounded by advanced tech and higher intellects than the average person and the focus was more on the characters than the setting. The setting is only important because that's when it happened, it doesn't feel like the 60's when the only reason it's in the 60's is because of the Cuban missile crisis.

The ending in my opinion wasn't horrible either, if only a bit to stereotypical of a hollywood blockbuster.

I'll be honest. This has gotten a lot bigger than I figured it would.

Another one I don't like was the last live action resident evil. I like them as a stupid novelty but YOU DO NOT KILL A BOSS THAT EASILY!

(01-23-2014, 08:06 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: I'll be honest. This has gotten a lot bigger than I figured it would.

Another one I don't like was the last live action resident evil. I like them as a stupid novelty but YOU DO NOT KILL A BOSS THAT EASILY!

To counter-act that one I recommend Damnation. That movie was spectacular.

I finally remembered that movie I talked about. It was the apparition, and didn't have Kristen Stewart. It was so fucking bad, like 4% on rotten tomatoes bad.

(01-23-2014, 08:06 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: I'll be honest. This has gotten a lot bigger than I figured it would.

Another one I don't like was the last live action resident evil. I like them as a stupid novelty but YOU DO NOT KILL A BOSS THAT EASILY!

I have yet to see the last Resident Evil movie, but I would love to see it. All the RE movies are bad when compared to the games, but I like to think of them as bad action movies rather than addatisons of games. It's like Rambo. We all know that the movies aren't suppose to be good (except for the first one) but we still watch them.

PS. I think the Rambo 2 and 3 are boring and I have yet to see Rambo 4 or the newest Rocky.

The resident evil movies could have been good, except Paul Anderson decided to screw things up once he got his hands on it. I remember watching the first one a year ago, and boy did I ever felt disgusted after watching it. I couldn't even finish it. To think. We would have gotten a better movie if Capcom approved of 'dawn of the dead' creator's script over Paul Anderson's crapfest.

I had like 9 minutes left of Frozen when the video got yanked off Youtube, but what I sat through up until then was pure agony.

Justin Bieber songs every two minutes, obnoxious characters, and really the whole story is just running from danger to different locations. People loved this movie for reasons I can't fathom because there is NOTHING here!

(02-03-2014, 02:15 PM)Hexadecimal Wrote: I had like 9 minutes left of Frozen when the video got yanked off Youtube, but what I sat through up until then was pure agony.

Justin Bieber songs every two minutes, obnoxious characters, and really the whole story is just running from danger to different locations. People loved this movie for reasons I can't fathom because there is NOTHING here!

You mean songs that sound like Justin Bieber songs and not him actually singing it? Cause the former I maybe can tolerate but the latter would make me wish to travel all the way to Pixar and burn that place to the ground if I knew they had him singing in a Disney film.

(02-04-2014, 10:17 PM)GameWizard001 Wrote:

(02-03-2014, 02:15 PM)Hexadecimal Wrote: I had like 9 minutes left of Frozen when the video got yanked off Youtube, but what I sat through up until then was pure agony.

Justin Bieber songs every two minutes, obnoxious characters, and really the whole story is just running from danger to different locations. People loved this movie for reasons I can't fathom because there is NOTHING here!

You mean songs that sound like Justin Bieber songs and not him actually singing it? Cause the former I maybe can tolerate but the latter would make me wish to travel all the way to Pixar and burn that place to the ground if I knew they had him singing in a Disney film.

They're so simplistic and stupid they sound like something he would write, plus all the songs sounded exactly the same. Everyone made such a big deal over the song Let it Go when it did nothing to distinguish itself from the other songs.

Aren't they even re-releasing it in theaters as a sing along version? There's nothing you can sing along to or even a single catchy tune!

The only good part of the film was when Anna wanders into a store and meets the only decent character who, I might add, shocked the heck out of me because Disney made it pretty obvious he's gay. I've yet to hear any wacky parental groups bitch about him, but they were probably too dense to pick up on it.

(02-04-2014, 10:34 PM)Hexadecimal Wrote:

(02-04-2014, 10:17 PM)GameWizard001 Wrote:

(02-03-2014, 02:15 PM)Hexadecimal Wrote: I had like 9 minutes left of Frozen when the video got yanked off Youtube, but what I sat through up until then was pure agony.

Justin Bieber songs every two minutes, obnoxious characters, and really the whole story is just running from danger to different locations. People loved this movie for reasons I can't fathom because there is NOTHING here!

You mean songs that sound like Justin Bieber songs and not him actually singing it? Cause the former I maybe can tolerate but the latter would make me wish to travel all the way to Pixar and burn that place to the ground if I knew they had him singing in a Disney film.

They're so simplistic and stupid they sound like something he would write, plus all the songs sounded exactly the same. Everyone made such a big deal over the song Let it Go when it did nothing to distinguish itself from the other songs.

Aren't they even re-releasing it in theaters as a sing along version? There's nothing you can sing along to or even a single catchy tune!

The only good part of the film was when Anna wanders into a store and meets the only decent character who, I might add, shocked the heck out of me because Disney made it pretty obvious he's gay. I've yet to hear any wacky parental groups bitch about him, but they were probably too dense to pick up on it.

Hex, you've got to remember. This is a kids movie. Its like Shrek. They just make it like that so the parents will bring them to the sequel.

(02-04-2014, 10:37 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: Hex, you've got to remember. This is a kids movie. Its like Shrek. They just make it like that so the parents will bring them to the sequel.

It wouldn't be a problem if just the kiddies were liking this film. There's people older than me raving about it and even the critics are going nuts. It is not like Shrek; the internet never went crazy about Shrek. Tumblr won't shut the hell up about Frozen and nearly all my pals are reblogging stuff related to it. Even the surprisingly nice Disney Subreddit is all Frozen, Frozen, Frozen. Where was this excitement over Wreck it Ralph?

If just my pals would shut up about Frozen, I wouldn't be as irritated. It's just really irritating that even when I was a kid the "popular" films of the time never amused me and few people even saw the films I did. I had a teacher go apeshit when I said I'd seen the Secret of NIMH and liked it when I was in second grade. I forget how that one was "anti-God" but it was another thing to make me the class outcast.

(02-04-2014, 10:47 PM)Hexadecimal Wrote:

(02-04-2014, 10:37 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: Hex, you've got to remember. This is a kids movie. Its like Shrek. They just make it like that so the parents will bring them to the sequel.

It wouldn't be a problem if just the kiddies were liking this film. There's people older than me raving about it and even the critics are going nuts. It is not like Shrek; the internet never went crazy about Shrek. Tumblr won't shut the hell up about Frozen and nearly all my pals are reblogging stuff related to it. Even the surprisingly nice Disney Subreddit is all Frozen, Frozen, Frozen. Where was this excitement over Wreck it Ralph?

It was over in the gaming communality. Still, Frozen is really popular now adays. A lot of people seem to love the movie and I still haven't seen it. I will give it to the fans, at lest I don't know much about the plot, which I can't say about the Harry Potter movies. You want to know the differences between the books and the movies? Ask the fans. They'll tell you how they end and who die too.

I think Larxene summed up my feelings towards Harry Pot-Heads nicely.

(02-04-2014, 10:47 PM)Hexadecimal Wrote:

(02-04-2014, 10:37 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: Hex, you've got to remember. This is a kids movie. Its like Shrek. They just make it like that so the parents will bring them to the sequel.

It wouldn't be a problem if just the kiddies were liking this film. There's people older than me raving about it and even the critics are going nuts. It is not like Shrek; the internet never went crazy about Shrek. Tumblr won't shut the hell up about Frozen and nearly all my pals are reblogging stuff related to it. Even the surprisingly nice Disney Subreddit is all Frozen, Frozen, Frozen. Where was this excitement over Wreck it Ralph?

http://imgur.com/gallery/zW4Ex

Such is life, no?
Honestly, its kind of hard to figure what triggers people. Shrek never really hit off because this internet infrastructure wasn't really a thing then. Heck, Myspace wasn't a thing when Shrek came out. When the social setting kicked in, Shrek movies started sucking, as in why is this still a thing bad.

I haven't seen Frozen, so I can't much judge, but its definitely one of those love it or hate it things.