(07-23-2016, 06:32 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: [ -> ]As I've said in the past, loose organization. All kinds of people, not all who represent their cause.
You might want to read my post again. At no point did I said otherwise.
Also, did you even bothered to read the article I linked? We are not talking about some randon person who claims to be a menber. We are talking about one of the three co-founders of the movement.
Not sure what it is you're trying to say with that.
(07-23-2016, 06:59 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure what it is you're trying to say with that.
He's saying it's wrong that all trolls on the internet are wrongly blamed in Gamergate, and it's ironic that many people who say that not all BLM supporters are crazy will say everyone involved in gamergate is crazy.
I've personally mever seen anyone do that, but I'm sure some have. I still argue that making broad assumptions about either is a terrible thing to do.
And here I ask why you are trying to pin this on me? As I've said in the past and continue to say, its unfair to treat a group based on an individual's actions.
and how many people do you think there are in Black Lives Matter?
Maybe thousands? One hundred people take up basically no space. You could legally fit 200 people in my old Elementary school's lunch room, and there were probably well over 400 in there at any busy hour of the day. There have been protests in major cities across the country, at the same time in many cases. If this was a matter of hundreds, we'd be talking on a scale of the Westboro with their one event picket bullshit. We're talking about an attempted social movement. There were 300 in Austin on July 15th, 100 in Portland, 300 in Reno. There were thousands in Boston on the 13th. 3000 in Manchester, England on the 11th. Thousands in Memphis on the 10th, with 500-1200 in Berlin, and 400 in Amsterdam.
https://elephrame.com/textbook/BLM
What do you mean maybe thousands? Jockey, I think you're seriously underestimating the scope of this group.
(07-24-2016, 08:28 PM)Space Jockey Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2016, 07:05 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: [ -> ]What do you mean maybe thousands?
I didn't exactly knew how many people are in BLM. Jeez man, calm the fuck down. What's your point anyway?
EDIT: btw, i find it funny that i showed you everything wrong with BLM yet you are still defending them...do you want more sources aside from a single youtube video? Is that what are you asking for?
This is going to be my last response to anything you post here Space Jockey, and I will do it by means of an illustration.
Imagine a kid is in school doing a report on a country for school. For the record, we'll say India. However, the only thing the student says in his report is that all men in India are rapists! He doesn't discuss ANYTHING beyond this one notion.
The teacher, disgusted by this negative attitude, asks the student how many people actually live in India. The student replies "I don't know, maybe a few million?" The teacher replies that his answer is nowhere near correct.
The teacher then informs the student that they have clearly done very little research about India and have only looked at one or two biased sources online. He informs them that he should at least have a general knowledge of what he is speaking about before he forms opinions.
Psycho DID NOT defend BLM in his post. He pointed, with a simple question, that you don't know the basics of what you are talking about. Your own answer proved that. He informed you of the correct answer: that BLM has way more supporters than maybe just a few hundred or thousand. If you want to keep making assumptions about things, don't be like the student I mentioned earlier. Please at least know the VERY basics of what you're talking about.
(07-24-2016, 08:28 PM)Space Jockey Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2016, 07:05 PM)Psychospacecow Wrote: [ -> ]What do you mean maybe thousands?
I didn't exactly knew how many people are in BLM. Jeez man, calm the fuck down. What's your point anyway?
EDIT: btw, i find it funny that i showed you everything wrong with BLM yet you are still defending them...do you want more sources aside from a single youtube video? Is that what are you asking for?
Jockey, either you're not getting my point or you're choosing to ignore it. I have stated it in as plain English as I can, and I'm not sure how else to say this. Every group, especially those that are so easily "joined" (seeing as this is a social movement) will have individuals that go out of their way to do something they want which has absolutely nothing to do with the creed they claim to represent, because they know that people who actually have integrity will try to defend themselves. No organization is perfect. BLM is hard to consider an organization as it is. BLM has its problems. Its too fast to jump, has a lot of ethos in its reason, and its loose organization leads to a lot of outliers. The core of what it stands for is good, though. Its a step.
and? You're making a case that because of someone's race as opposed to their actions, they are being murdered. If you weren't, the statement of race would be irrelevant. Of course someone resisting arrest is met with force. Race is irrelevant in that statement. The concern is about due process.
And that is why I'm saying we're done here.